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EdGrimley 12-11-2014 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1781138)
Well, I recently passed 400 hours on the Mad Dog, and am off probation. I'll probably start to post here again occasionally now that I don't have to take immature a-holes seriously when they threaten my livelihood because I posted something they disagreed with.

I wrote my rep today about the Virgin JV TA. I told him that the TA itself appears to be weaker than the AF/KL/AZ language that the company has repeatedly run roughshod over, but I'm not an expert on contract language by any means & am willing to hear what the NC/MEC has to say about it. The bigger problem, I said, is the blackout on information (I got the TA language from this board, sheesh) and the MEC appearing to want to make a decision free of input from the membership. I suggested that they table the TA for now, put out the actual language along with their explanation of the various provisions, and vote on it in a few weeks once the membership has had a chance to examine the provisions and provide input to their reps. This would be a more democratic process befitting something that has such a huge potential impact on our future careers.

We'll see whether I hear back. He's been pretty responsive in the past.

JB, congrats on completing probation. I'm glad you're back. You're one poster I enjoy reading. From what I've read you're intellectually honest...no spin. Hope to see you posting here often.

cni187 12-11-2014 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1781153)
Is there anywhere to get a good craft brew near the dtw long layover? It's not in mycrewguide. Thx

There's an app called Find Craft Beer. Yelp works too.

Jughead135 12-11-2014 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by fsuskypilot (Post 1781417)
I'm relocating from NJ to NW Arkansas at the end of Jan. If anyone here commutes out of XNA to ATL or NYC I'd be interested to hear about it.

Last time I flew to XNA, we had an ATL-based commuter on the JS (717). He mentioned he is "always, without exception" (his words) on the JS, as EVERY seat is ALWAYS full. (No idea if that's hyperbole or not, but the three times I've been there, we were 100% full going in and out.). Apparently, Walmart drives a LOT of traffic in & out. Anyway, he described the commute as "tough but doable," and was very happy to have mainline aircraft flying the route so he could reserve his spot on the JS....

Good luck!

Jughead135 12-11-2014 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1780936)
In my opinion it usually results in more money for less days of work. I'll try to explain. [...]

Thanks! I think I get it.... Will have to crunch the numbers when the issue arises. Cheers!

Roadkill 12-11-2014 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1781529)
There's an app called Find Craft Beer. Yelp works too.

I've got that app, meh...also taphunter and FindMyTap. None of them are really "good", spotty info and hard for you to provide input/update as a drinker. And NONE of them is worth a crap at finding real cask ale.

I walked all over DTW recently looking for beers, hit probably 7 places. I hate to say it, but I think the Buffalo WildWings place was actually the best beer selection. I have been to Jacoby's three times, I give it a thumbs down. Bottles only, not the german-beer-drinking crowd I was looking for.

And if anyone gets told to go to GreekTown for BBQ at "Red Smoke"-- PASS, that place is probably the 2nd worst BBQ ever eaten, behind only when Uncle Bob's pigsty caught fire and he didn't want to waste...

crewdawg52 12-12-2014 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1781153)
Is there anywhere to get a good craft brew near the dtw long layover? It's not in mycrewguide. Thx

Good mag. Buddy and I go to several places throughout the year.

Detroit, Michigan | Beer Guide | BeerAdvocate

NWA320pilot 12-12-2014 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by fsuskypilot (Post 1781417)
I'm relocating from NJ to NW Arkansas at the end of Jan. If anyone here commutes out of XNA to ATL or NYC I'd be interested to hear about it.

XNA can be tough commute, there are currently 6 daily departures to ATL with one being mainline and they are almost always full. Tulsa is an option they have 5 daily flights with 1 being mainline. There is also FSM but it only has 3 flights all being a 50 seat CRJ.

NYC is a pain from any of these as it becomes a 2 leg commute........ Ask me how I know. :(

Oberon 12-12-2014 04:41 AM

Detroit Beer Company has good food and good beer.

Its too bad you don't stay in Ann Arbor. There are four brew pubs within walking distance and multiple craft brew bars. Jolly Pumpkin is probably my favorite. All of their beers are sour which is pretty unusual for a commercial brewery.

Mesabah 12-12-2014 05:32 AM

Stock might hit $50 today, still way undervalued.

Carl Spackler 12-12-2014 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
Carl,

By "worst case" do you mean with the Virgin JV, or without?

With.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
Without the JV, something like 300,000 international widebody block hours are unprotected.

The company can always decide to shrink to zero. Nothing new there. When our MEC votes this TA in, then the company can shrink our international block hours by over 100,000 hours AND still keep the Virgin Joint Venture. Without the TA, they'd have to give up the JV if they shrunk the block hours below what we're currently flying.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
JV scope is limiting, not a goal.

When the MEC votes this TA in, we'll be agreeing to lower that scope limit by over 100,000 block hours annually AND the company gets to keep the Virgin Joint Venture.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
We should not assume to know what the Company's plans are; economics change moment by moment. But we can, and do, build baseline protections ... and in this case, ensure our participation in growth.

Participating in growth is good. Shrinking by over 100,000 international block hours annually while the company gets to keep the Virgin Joint Venture won't be good.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
Along those lines, Heathrow is slot controlled and it makes sense to run the largest gauge available into those limited slots. If so, Delta would have to add more international wide body block hours to keep up on an Available Seat Kilometer basis.

I thought you just said we shouldn't assume to know what the company's plans are.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1781526)
Again, we are debating an LOA which has not yet been fully vetted by and debated by our Reps, the men we trust to perform the job with the assistance of subject matter experts. We should defer to our Negotiator's Notepad and Reps' communications.

I know that's how you view our democracy here Bar. Most of us agree that trust but verify is the key. You think it should just be trust. I think your model is what's currently causing the deep division and dysfunctional behavior currently on display in our MEC.

Carl


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