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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1812181)
If you convert profit sharing into the pay rates does that not distribute the money in the exact same way based on earnings that you seem to think is so unfair?
Now if we gave the horses that pull this stagecoach hardest the majority of the oats I'd have fewer issues with it. But our Frankenstein gouges out the profit share based on W2 not hours flown. Horses standing in the corral can get as much or more depending. Whodathunkit? |
Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
(Post 1812223)
This sentiment is one which is easy to embrace. Shared success, shared ownership, accountability and reliability.
Except the experience of the past decade confirms that while success is shared, failure has been ours and not managements to bear. Profit sharing is a concession. Are we "Taking it Back" or not??? |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1812229)
You came here to push the idea, and we've heard you. Check that box. Now please move along to something else. We do not want to give up profit sharing at a time when it's returning huge payouts. Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.;)
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Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
(Post 1812227)
Maybe you missed it:
Now if we gave the horses that pull this stagecoach hardest the majority of the oats I'd have fewer issues with it. But our Frankenstein gouges out the profit share based on W2 not hours flown. Horses standing in the corral can get as much or more depending. Whodathunkit? |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1812229)
You came here to push the idea, and we've heard you. Check that box. Now please move along to something else. We do not want to give up profit sharing at a time when it's returning huge payouts. Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.;)
Hey man, anyone for Scope? |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1812229)
You came here to push the idea, and we've heard you. Check that box. Now please move along to something else. We do not want to give up profit sharing at a time when it's returning huge payouts. Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.;)
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Lumberg has a new companion on my "ignore" list
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Originally Posted by IAV84DAL
(Post 1812236)
It was crazy to move out of the suburbs for the slums but we did that too. Funny thing about the slums though, it doesn't take long for some to lord over it.
Hey man, anyone for Scope? |
Section 1 & Horizon Carve Outs.
On the survey I indicated that the single most important contractual change that absolutely had to be accomplished was the redaction of every bit of Horizon Q400 scope immunity from Section 1.
When we first saw that language in the then newly minted TA I was certain a merger with Alaska was imminent. Now nearly 5 years later management has had ample time to get off the pot. If we're going to continue to offer management the concession of scope relief for some 100 Q400's flown by Horizon in the event of a merger with ALK I want something very big for it. That's too much flying of too many routes by too many non mainline pilots. Hello?? |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1812020)
I expect a 4/6.5/3/3 raise like last contract if profit sharing is left alone. With profit sharing, I'm finally making more than my friends at Southwest hired about the same time. I expect our retirement contributions to be brought up to 16 percent to match the other big 2. I expect our JV scope to be renegotiated to put the company into compliance (unfortunate, but probably true), and I expect the unverified sick leave to drop to 75 hours per year if not 50. We'll see what actually happens, but this is what I am expecting based on our history and the rumors I'm hearing. I also expect split duty periods.
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