So a DOS raise of 18%+ an additional 20% raise for trading PS?... 38% DOS raise +4% ever year for 4 year contract

I would be ok with that along with improvements to vacation and ADG of 5:45

98% of over 1400 Delta pilots want to keep or increase our profit sharing on the DPA poll.

Are you going to say it's bad info because DPA blah, blah, blah?

At worst it is within 5% of the DALPA contract survey.

I hate to say it but I really thought that the will of a majority of the pilots was to "get em next time."





:D

Every single item in our contract is an "at-risk" variable. This has been pointed out numerous times in the last few days, yet you've scrupulously ignored it. Why is that Karnak?

You're the only one claiming that Karnak. Everyone else is correctly stating that Profit Sharing is "at-risk" just like every other item in our contract.

Carl

Every time we enter Section 6, everything is 'at risk', because the company will want to horse trade pay for manning, or pay for benefits, or pay for all of the above....and then there's profit sharing, something they didn't have to worry about when they gave it to us, in bankruptcy.

Now that it looks like it could be a pretty big pay out to us...now...they want to trade that too.

A 'pay raise' in exchange for profit sharing when the company is making BILLIONS isn't a raise at all, unless it's at a greater rate than 1:1. How about 2:1?

But they can have 100% of my profit sharing, just as soon as they give me back 100% of my retirement!

back me up please
 

I have referenced the scheduling handbook and I've called scheduling but I'd appreciate it if guys more experienced sitting reserve could back me up.

Situation
I am currently on LC, tomorrow is an on-call day, as of now and I haven't been given a trip or SC, and on Tuesday I have jury duty on my schedule. When I spoke with scheduling I was told that if I am still on LC at noon the day prior to jury duty showing on my schedule, then I am free to commute home (assuming no SC or trip assigned). If I am assigned SC then I have to stay until the termination of the SC window; however, they can't assign me SC any later than noon Monday since they have to give me 12 hours notice (and practically speaking, not many 717 trips leave after 10pm, so if I'm not assigned SC prior to say 8am it is unlikely I'd be assigned it at all).

Plan
My plan is to take an early flight from NYC to ATL. If assigned a trip or SC while airborne I'll just turn around and fly back to NYC. If I haven't been assigned a trip or SC by noon, I plan to take a later flight from ATL to SAT.

Questions
1. Have I made any incorrect assumptions or broken any rules in my reasoning for how to get home tomorrow?
2. Since I will be on LC and unavailable via phone while commuting from NYC to ATL, do I have an obligation to call scheduling and let them know what I'm doing?

Thank you for your time.

Laying a little groundwork there Karnak?

I didn't really believe all the talk that DALPA was planning to give back profit sharing.

Until now.

If the company was dead set against us keeping our Profit Sharing, I'd negotiate it away for preferred stock with a par value of one penny, that paid a dividend equal to our current profit sharing, and the dividend could only be changed by a two-thirds majority of Delta pilots. That would be one way to make it less risky with less downside variance.

We'd have to be a unionized pilot group to pull that off however.

Carl

1. No, seems correct 2. No, you are under no obligation to be immediately contactable when on LC. They'll leave a message notifying you of your trip or SC if they can't reach you. Many people don't answer the phone on LC, they just send it to VM and check iCrew. By the way, you can access DeltaNet (and thus icrew) via the inflight wifi for free. No special code needed, just navigate to DLnet and login.

(of course, now you'll be hitting refresh on your schedule all the way from NYC to ATL tomorrow, relax...)

I think C2K and it's aftermath proves that pay rates are variable and are "at risk" compensation. The same conditions that would reduce profit sharing to zero would also put pressure on rates and work rules. Without profit sharing there would be even more pressure on those rates.

FTB, we need a photoshop Leggo my Eggo with the Eggo as profit sharing!