Correct me if I'm wrong please.

The forum, for the last few days, has been arguing over a few words from a few paragraphs taken from a 45 minute interview. Let me repeat, a few words from a few paragraphs from a 45 minute interview.

Now, we all know how wonderful the media is at sound bites. Has anyone seen or read the WHOLE 45 minute interview? I do NOT trust the media.

Let's all get the FACTS!!! Then and only then can all of us forum "experts" argue our points. Right now you all look like a bunch of spoiled kids arguing over whose daddy is bigger. Sheesh.

I'm not defending Moak. I would just like to see the whole interview before passing judgment. I know none of us here have ever taken a snippet of a conversation and bashed anyone. ...roll eyes...

And yet he's beaten ALPA over and over again in court. You'd think ALPA would be able to tear apart an incompetent like this guy. :rolleyes:

Carl

Completely agree.

Carl

But how did management achieve this within our "union" DAL88? Was it because management's talk is so persuasive? Or was it another reason that both sides are so protective of each other?

Carl

Over and over? Why don't you refresh our memories?

Oh, and I like how you avoided the fact that he brought the B Scale to American. I only mentioned the pilot groups that have fired him. There's more employee groups that he's been fired by as well. Go Seham!!

Lower, but what does the DPA have to do with this? I never mentioned DPA and I am pretty sure Lee didn't either.

So if a ALPA guy makes a mistake, which in my opinion Lee did here you respond by injecting the DPA into the discussion?

Are you confusing me with another poster?

Scoop

3bil, you haven't shared your thoughts on Moak's catastrophic interview. Where do you stand on it, and what should he do to correct it?

Where has it been established that it was a 45 minute interview? I'm not saying it wasn't, but I haven't seen any official statement indicating it was. I certainly could have missed it... so just asking.

And a couple of things that don't add up for me.

First, at least one poster here had a conversation over the phone with Moak about this. Moak apparently claims he was misquoted. If you were misquoted and were concerned about the ramifications of those misquotes, wouldn't you put out a statement ASAP setting the record straight with what you actually said and meant?

And if you did actually say those things but were taken out of context and it was twisted to present a different meaning, wouldn't you still put out a statement ASAP setting the record straight? Also, shouldn't someone in Moak's position and with his prominence be a little more careful to state things in a way that cannot be misinterpreted?

And why do my reps defend what Moak allegedly said to that reporter? My reps (your reps too) saw nothing wrong with those quotes. I exchanged numerous emails with them and I don't recall a single mention of the quotes being illegitimate... just a lot of time spent defending them.

Seems to me like somebody needs to get their story straight. When combined with other things Moak has said and done in the past, those quotes seem very consistent.

So, yeah, if there is a full transcript of the entire interview, it would be really helpful to see that.

In the meantime... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... there's a pretty good chance it's a duck! :D

I hear what you're saying. The problem is, the whole interview isn't in the article, it isn't published. It's now Bloomberg's proprietary material, and it might as well not even exist. I don't even know if Moak could get the recording if he asked for it. If he can, he should, I agree--and put the raw interview on the ALPA portal. Let's hear it. Let's see or hear something--anything!--that attempts to explain what happened. So far...crickets chirping.

For now, what we're saddled with is that the next time an ALPA pilot group approaches the NMB for relief, management will print off a copy of that article and slap it down on Lisa's desk. Lee said it better than management could.

Thanks for the response guys. I think I read the 45 minute interview thingy from the "other" forum. I don't remember. My big problem with the last few pages of this forum is the over the top reaction. Someone saw smoke and everyone yelled fire!!!! No one bothered to see the smoke was caused by T's BBQ while tailgating... I wish we had more level headed responses and a more civilized debate.

Dal88, it's so hard to not respond on here with real names. Lol. (-:
I also read on one of our forums....maybe it was our Facebook group, that a response from Moak was coming. The poster who spoke with Moak said that.