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The Song 752's held 199, but it was all coach seating.

I was on the jumpseat of one of our brand new 737-900's yesterday, ATL-MCO. FOB for pushback was 14,000. Flight planned block time was 1:03 with a fuel burn of 7,200. 180 passengers (20/160, plus two jumpseaters, me and a F/A in back).

A 752 holds what, about 184? (24/160?)

So, on the same one hour flight, burning 8,400, the company loses 4 F/C seats, but saves 1,200lbs. fuel burn, by replacing the 752 with the 739, which is what they are doing. They still run a lot of 753's on that route at mid day, when the loads are heavier.

And we wonder why the 757 got killed off. Alaskan is a great example of an airline that uses the single mission 737 in place of the multi mission 757. The 757 can do it all but at a price, for cheaper you can have the 737-7 for the routes where you need performance and the 739 for those where capacity trumps performance and the 738 in the middle.

forgot to bid

08-23-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1710905)

Same route (MCO-ATL) and 1.03 ETE on 757 is 8619.

surfnski

08-23-2014 05:45 PM

Quick question, do you have to have 6 months time on property at DAL to use OAL jumpseat? I can't for the life of me book an offline jumpseat.

PM if you need employment verification.

Cheers

Timbo

08-23-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by surfnski (Post 1711305)

Quick question, do you have to have 6 months time on property at DAL to use OAL jumpseat? I can't for the life of me book an offline jumpseat.

PM if you need employment verification.

Cheers

I think once your picture is entered into CASS, you can off line jumpseat.

Not sure how long it takes but given the speed and accuracy of DL IT, could be years...:rolleyes:

sailingfun

08-23-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by surfnski (Post 1711305)

Quick question, do you have to have 6 months time on property at DAL to use OAL jumpseat? I can't for the life of me book an offline jumpseat.

PM if you need employment verification.

Cheers

Generally you can't book a offline Jumpseat with one exception at the majors and even then you are only making a listing.

sailingfun

08-23-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1711135)

A minor correction.

Your correct, the 757-300 aircraft will be bumped to something like 230 seats. Pre departure day boarding will however be offered to those willing to pay extra!

Edit: 234 will be the new total on the 300

sailingfun

08-23-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1710831)

What 752 do we have running 199 seats? I hope I am never on that thing. :eek:

Put a 752 on a short route and it burns closer to 8400 lbs an hour. Put a 717 on it and it burns 5700 per hour. Divide it out by the seats and the 752 wins by a 10% margin. 10%? Put a 757 on a typical 717 market and you've just dumped 70 seats into that flight, poof goes that margin to save on one metric of block fuel asm.

The 757 will have the same seat pitch as the current models. They will get the slimline seats and smaller galleys like the 737-900.

galaxy flyer

08-23-2014 06:10 PM

230 seats in a -300 means the pax bags could be delivered directly to their hotel as it'll be hours before they will off the plane.

GF

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