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Mesabah 08-24-2014 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1711449)
How is that happening? I thought you said that the SSP wasn't working?

No, I said the EtD will not work.

sailingfun 08-24-2014 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Piklepausepull (Post 1711480)
And I don't particularly like a 0 second delay for takeoff behind one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

What moron came up with the new, no-wake turb separation rules?
:mad:
Twice recently I have been cleared for t/o before the 753 before me has even left the ground! "Colorful" doesn't realy describe the fun!:D

If it was a 757-300 you would be airborne long before the point where he ever rotated. Solves the wake issue.

TeddyKGB 08-24-2014 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1711521)
No, I said the EtD will not work.

Everyone also said that SSP wouldn't work either. There are already over 100 pilots @ Delta from the SSP who wouldn't be here otherwise.

ShyGuy 08-24-2014 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1711546)
Everyone also said that SSP wouldn't work either. There are already over 100 pilots @ Delta from the SSP who wouldn't be here otherwise.

Yes but that's because those guys were already qualified for the SSP. The EtD specifically requires a newhire to upgrade and be a CA at Endeavor two years. There are no upgrades at Endeavor, only a continuing cycle of downgrades and displacements to the LGA and JFK bases. Based on the current fleet plan of only 81 CR9s, unless something changes, there will be no upgrades as Endeavor still has to park all remaining 80-ish CR2s as required by the Delta PWA 50 seat cap. No newhire will upgrade and therefore will not qualify for meeting the requirement of a Delta class date. Most current downgrades are in the 2006 DOH area for some.

TheManager 08-24-2014 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1711522)
If it was a 757-300 you would be airborne long before the point where he ever rotated. Solves the wake issue.

Hey El Capitan Obvious

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TSRiLX-Qggk/hqdefault.jpg

What about if you are in one of these wake finding, runway challenged, replacement pigs? Not fun.

http://www.visitingphx.com/fb2013b.jpg

Mesabah 08-24-2014 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1711546)
Everyone also said that SSP wouldn't work either. There are already over 100 pilots @ Delta from the SSP who wouldn't be here otherwise.

What if the flow had stayed intact?

DALMD88FO 08-24-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1711489)
Scheduling will call you at 7pm the night before to release you. At that point you are free. You can then stay home, WS, GS, etc...

Sometimes. I just ran into this issue this week. Scheduling gets the paperwork at 7pm now and they will release you when they get around to it. I was told they would call when they get to it and they said they were in IROPS and they would get to it by 10pm maybe. My report was 0730.

GunshipGuy 08-24-2014 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1711571)
Sometimes. I just ran into this issue this week. Scheduling gets the paperwork at 7pm now and they will release you when they get around to it. I was told they would call when they get to it and they said they were in IROPS and they would get to it by 10pm maybe. My report was 0730.

Maybe that scheduler is taking tips from the one two weeks ago who put a GS on my schedule and never called. When I called and told them I couldn't take it (after seeing it against my name under "Daily Trip Coverage") and asked why he didn't call his response was, "He didn't have time to call." And then he got gruff with me for having a GS request put in.

hockeypilot44 08-24-2014 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1711583)
Maybe that scheduler is taking tips from the one two weeks ago who put a GS on my schedule and never called. When I called and told them I couldn't take it (after seeing it against my name under "Daily Trip Coverage") and asked why he didn't call his response was, "He didn't have time to call." And then he got gruff with me for having a GS request put in.

Just so you know if you answer your phone when they call for a green slip, the trip is yours. It is not a proffer. If you call them before they get around to calling you, they can probably force it on you unless you have a good reason. Be careful doing this. I am fairly confident, it would have been taken off your schedule eventually if you never called them. Be careful being proactive with green slips. You can put qualifiers in so they only call you on the ones you want.

Erdude32 08-24-2014 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1711589)
Just so you know if you answer your phone when they call for a green slip, the trip is yours. It is not a proffer. If you call them before they get around to calling you, they can probably force it on you unless you have a good reason. Be careful doing this. I am fairly confident, it would have been taken off your schedule eventually if you never called them. Be careful being proactive with green slips. You can put qualifiers in so they only call you on the ones you want.

Not entirely true. I've turned down 4 Greenslips this month. Two because I wouldn't have been rested & two because I couldn't get into position in time. I answer every time they call, listen to the sales pitch & decide if I want/can accept it. Have never had an issue with turning one down. 9/10'times they thank me for answering my phone & move onto the next person.


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