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Alan Shore 08-24-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1711637)
Delta had zero obligation to honor the XJ flow once they were no longer owned by NWA. As an olive branch, Delta threw in a years worth of flows. They didn't even have to do that.

It's a bit less altruistic than it sounds. Delta was contractually obligated to come to the table and at least discuss the flows. Further, had Delta decided to terminate the flows and no longer offer flowdown for us, the number of permitted 76-seat jets at DCI would immediately have been reduced by 35.

While Delta could have attempted to convince the new owners of CPZ and MSA to accept a flowdown from us with no corresponding flowup for them, such agreement would probably have been tough to come by.

DAL 88 Driver 08-24-2014 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1711810)

Most over there are terrific; just doing a critical job very well to keep Delta Air Lines moving. But a few (maybe one ... since moved to Crew Tracking BTW) is comically inept. There's only one I've heard stories about, but invariably it is the same one.[/youtube]

I agree. Most are very courteous, professional, and I have a lot of respect for the difficult job they have. Out of all these years, there's only one I've consistently had issues with. I won't name any names... ;)


Mesabah 08-24-2014 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1711860)
It's a bit less altruistic than it sounds. Delta was contractually obligated to come to the table and at least discuss the flows. Further, had Delta decided to terminate the flows and no longer offer flowdown for us, the number of permitted 76-seat jets at DCI would immediately have been reduced by 35.

While Delta could have attempted to convince the new owners of CPZ and MSA to accept a flowdown from us with no corresponding flowup for them, such agreement would probably have been tough to come by.

Not only that, the XJ union went in, and tried to strong arm DAL management, and blew it for everyone except the one year of guys. Which, I heard was a gift from the DAL MEC.

flyallnite 08-24-2014 04:15 PM

Well, the end of July has come and gone, and August is drawing to a close. The periodic updates that were promised regarding the tablet device we are supposedly receiving have gone silent, and we are nearly halfway into the FAA validation timeline announced in May... does anyone know what the latest is with this debacle?

Related: do we get any corporate discount online at the MS store, aside from MS office on DL net?

Herkflyr 08-24-2014 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Free Mason (Post 1711854)
There is a move to have more qualifiers like landings in, not just layovers, theatre specific, etc.

If you have an idea, send it to your reps, there is a SOT going on right now about this stuff. Easy things like Pref Qualifiers are generally easy to get a movement on.

Guys on the PBS committee wanted the PBS interface to double as our PCS template nine YEARS ago. What's not to like?

That said the company needs to actually pony up the $$ to make that happen. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Purple Drank 08-24-2014 04:26 PM

I heard a flight attendant is now running the tablet program after the pilot guy quit.

Does this mean the default wallpaper will consist of cat(s) in various stages of silliness?

flyallnite 08-24-2014 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1711951)
I heard a flight attendant is now running the tablet program after the pilot guy quit.

Does this mean the default wallpaper will consist of cat(s) in various stages of silliness?

All the more reason to work 'meow' into your everyday controller-pilot communications. EX: 'Delta 234 is meow cleared direct to CANUK'

One Taco 08-24-2014 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1711783)
The emotional rush of that occasional big score masks the complete and udder ineffectiveness of a completely obsolete and counter productive system.


If one has udder ineffectiveness, wouldn't you want it masked too? :)

badflaps 08-24-2014 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by One Taco (Post 1711985)
If one has udder ineffectiveness, wouldn't you want it masked too? :)

Damn! I suppose the price of milk will go up now..

forgot to bid 08-24-2014 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1711711)
I agree. They are attempting to use rules on both sides of the fence to their advantage.

And, I never answer my phone as SF does. A big issue is the 1980's style grease board manual trip coverage we are still using.

UAL and SWA both have apps/texting scheduling tools that help both the pilot group and the Co.

You know thinking about this conversation, I have no constraints on GSs. Partly because we don't get them as 717 FOs. Prior to July and August this worked out well.


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1711945)
Well, the end of July has come and gone, and August is drawing to a close. The periodic updates that were promised regarding the tablet device we are supposedly receiving have gone silent, and we are nearly halfway into the FAA validation timeline announced in May... does anyone know what the latest is with this debacle?

Related: do we get any corporate discount online at the MS store, aside from MS office on DL net?

Wait a minute, I figured we'd be getting them this week?


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