The issue is that by making statements like that, he at best does nothing to help our leverage while at worst hurts our leverage.

If it were really that benign, I wouldn't be very concerned. But it's much worse than the damage to our leverage. His statements are clear proof of the strategy that Moak has pursued from the beginning of his four year tenure. He was smart enough to never let that strategy be known until he was ready to leave because it would have meant his demise.

Moak's strategy was to weaken the bargaining power of member MEC's by multiple means. He may have done it because he really believes in baby steps, or because he was pre-paying his entry fee into his next occupation. I believe I know the answer. I think we'll all know very soon.

The question going forward is whether Delta pilots will be able (or even have the desire) to prove Moak wrong by behaving like a labor union instead of a management pet.

Carl

We might be talking past each other a bit: by hurting our leverage, that in my mind is among the worst things he can do. That entails selling us out for little to no gains among the most profitable period in our airline's history.

Call me cynical but there's probably a lot more money in working for airlines who make a billion dollars in profit each quarter with multi billion dollar pilot labor costs they want to control then to be the Chairman of a union or President of a national union.

This! Little to no gains during the most profitable times, what will we lose or voluntarily give up when the industry turns south. How much of the profits are from consolidation and not "expert" management, the other companies seem to be pulling down big numbers. Mr Moak has just put the industry on notice that we will do whatever it takes to keep it profitable for management and shareholders...sounds like "Boardwalk Empire."

A wise old captain once told me, "A wise old captain once said you'll never get wealthy or powerful when you wear a name tag to work."

Looks like Lee is trying to find a gig where he doesn't have to wear one.

Doesn't matter that he has to betray his current constituents to do it. Integrity-wise, I'd rate Lee Moak far worse than Tim Martins.

I am writing my reps right now to impeach Moak if that is even possible.:mad: Others might want to do the same.

Disgusted Disbelief. I haven't trusted him since 2007 when he told me in person unequivocally that he was NOT running for ALPA National President. He is a two faced political liar and a hack. This little PR stunt and tour on Wall Street on OUR dime is nothing less than a treasonist act against the Pilots who are paying HIS salary. I'd like to see him recalled immediately so he can't even finish out the last few months of his term. Hopefully that would at least "un-grease" the skids of whatever job he's bought himself post ALPA at our expense.

Please burn up the phone lines, crash the ALPA switchboard and voice your opinion on his comments.

703-689-2270

He can be recalled.

second!!!!!