Which further reinforces my (our) point. Measured by EASK we are not growing. 330<777. Getting further behind in the cure period that you and the MEC have been touting as the time the company would begin to be in balance. Not so much...

We don't know how much EASKs the AF/KL side is going to be reducing, so don't assume the other side of the Atlantic is static.

Air France-KLM Lowers Earnings Guidance for 2014 - WSJ

remember we have a net availability of 6 more WB's now that all the mod lines are done... The A330's will not come online until the cure period is over.

There is leverage there, but like T says, how do you remedy the violation without "selling scope for pay"???

I feel sheepish this morning. I made my point. Then, I let someone get under my skin, got angry (internet angry is both the worst and silliest kind of angry), and loosed a rhetorical flourish that destroyed my credibility.

That's some rookie forensics, right there.

The MEC administration has apparently decided not to ask for that. The contract awareness bulletin says doing so would negatively affect more pilots than letting the bid stand.

rebid
 

They should re-run the bid. The company likes to remind us to "bid what we want and want what we bid." We should be telling them to "post what you need, and need what you post."

If what happened did not violate the PWA in any way then we may need to work on the section that covers filling of vacancies.

VA will pick up Atlantic flying. Not only are they cheaper per hour wise, they are cheaper manning wise, 2 vs 3 across most Atlantic trips.

I don't know. What about some minimum category staffing level that would mirror what would have been required had the company not committed the violation? There would be a lot of guys collecting reserve guarantee for not working much, but that would have been the decision the company made when they violated the contract. Sort of like a staffing version of pay protection.

In fact we sort of have a very faint version of that with the Target Line Value (TLV). The TLV states that the average of the ALVs must range between 75-80 hours in any rolling 12 month period. The company would love to staff some categories at the high end of the ALV of 84 indefinitely (or conversely, some overmanned categories at 72 hours indefinitely).

Nevertheless, no matter how understaffed the category (M88B anyone?) they must eventually pull down the ALVs to meet the TLV requirement. That generates a lot of pairings that the company doesn't like, with lots of credit time. Oh well. The TLV is there not only to protect the pilots from the company who might otherwise schedule 84 hour ALVs forever, but in the long term it forces the company to plan ahead, and in fact saves them from themselves.

It can be done. Better negotiations pay more, but we havent seen that yet.:D I would rather retire on the 737 and as far as pay banding, if it reduces our head count, I can't be "for" it even though I would rather retire NB.

TEN

They wouldnt laugh if we refused to grant relief on the upcoming.displacements.

Sadly we will lay down and surrender faster than the French.

That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates (thank GOD), and he received no money from ALPA PAC.

I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.

This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.

And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.

You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.