Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697202)

Ummmm OK, I'll bite. Just how do you propose "not granting relief" to upcomng displacements? Just not show up en masse for training when assigned? They can displace whomever they want, whenever they want. THEY buy the airplanes, and THEY deploy them. WE only fly them...

Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1697198)

That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates (thank GOD), and he received no money from ALPA PAC.

I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.

This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.

And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.

You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1697226)

Not speaking for Jerry, but I think I agree with him on this. We shouldn't grant any relief from displacements. If the company wants to displace on the top end while hiring on the bottom, let them. With our record, any contractual relief we give will ultimately hurt US far worse.

Also, if my fenced airplane going away while the fences are still up results in my displacement, then my displacement should happen while the fences are still up so I couldn't displace to the 777. That's only fair.

My two cents.

Carl

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1697014)

I'm confused. If you take 4 747's out of the mix(park) and move other aircraft from Europe to the Pacific, how do you increase European International flying by 3% over what it is now with no other widebodies?

Where is the letter/memo saying we will increase European flying by 3%?

Denny

Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1697198)

That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates (thank GOD), and he received no money from ALPA PAC.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1697223)

First, I'd love to see the dollar for dollar amount we sent to each politician. Second, official endorsements aren't required to let members know your position. I read everything ALPA put out the last 6 years. ALPA clearly did NOT support the McCain/Palin ticket. Everything written was heavily slanted toward Obama, and McCain routinely portrayed as anti-labor. Same with congressional candidates, and same with the run against Romney. If you didn't see that, I don't know what to say other than I'll let others decide what they recall regarding who ALPA was hoping you'd vote for.

You should give rip. ALPA is an affiliate of the AFL-CIO...a very far left organization.

Spare me the political talking points of a "Pilot Partisan" agenda. ALPA is a strong supporter of left wing politics. That's a fact.

Carl

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1697265)

Wrong!

https://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pr...08/2008-10.pdf

Which is why I don't support the ALPA PAC.

You should retract your assertion.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1697276)

Same here. I value my profession, but I value my country more.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1697263)

Denny,

You are not alone in this regard so I will try to clarify this issue for my fellow APCers.


DAL management has decided to accelerate the rate that we make adjustments to our Atlantic capacity. We will reduce our planned growth so as to minimize our capacity pull-down. The resultant increase in our planned reduction will allow us to maximize revenue by minimizing YOY growth in ASM's.


In lieu of the above I hereby nominate DAL marketing for the "First annual award for outstanding achievement in the field of excellence!"

Scoop :D

PS - For bonus points can anyone name my original source for the above paraphrased award???

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1697226)

Not speaking for Jerry, but I think I agree with him on this. We shouldn't grant any relief from displacements. If the company wants to displace on the top end while hiring on the bottom, let them. With our record, any contractual relief we give will ultimately hurt US far worse.

Also, if my fenced airplane going away while the fences are still up results in my displacement, then my displacement should happen while the fences are still up so I couldn't displace to the 777. That's only fair.

My two cents.

Carl