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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1697465)

I posted that for the view of the TBIT and our codeshare partners flying the big uglies. :) First one I stumbled upon had a 'murican 777 and that awful paint scheme. Look past the eyesore tail! :cool:

If you think their cabin service is bad, you should see their cockpit procedures! Pretty sure they remain unchanged since the 1960's.

This is more what I was going for:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../3/2436306.jpg

You younguns can fall in love with those God-awful POSs if you want, but I'd rather have a bunch of 737s than a single one of those things. Butt ugly... it doesn't fly, it is repelled by all that is Holy on this planet.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697476)

You're missing the point.

We are parking our largest and highest paying equipment while the companies we codeshare with are taking delivery of more big uglies.

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1697461)

Anecdotally, I had to fly to ORD for an appt. Bought a ticket on AA round trip. 737-800 both ways. Their cabin service sucks. On the 4 hour flight back to LA, the FAs passed through coach one time asking "do you want anything?"

About 3 hours into the flight, I walked to the rear galley looking for a glass of water. All 3 FAs had the curtain drawn, feet kicked up and were playing Candy Crush.

I'm so happy to be working for Delta and partnering with a, largely, professional group of associates.

Carry on.

Did they make fewer and shorter PAs?

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1697480)

You're missing the point.

We are parking our largest and highest paying equipment while the companies we codeshare with are taking delivery of more big uglies.

Mostly because all of those companies are state supported....

They are still ugly, and I wouldn't be caught dead in one.

You know if they painted these in SkyTeam colors....
http://i59.tinypic.com/155sxw6.jpg

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1697261)

If we have a bid in 2014 but displacements from that bid are not done until 2015 can you guys go to the 777 or does the bid actually have to be posted after Jan 1 2015?

My understanding is that the company has to tell DALPA that it is the final bid of the year 2014, and therefore the bid where the fences won't apply.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697476)

Go fly a 737 before you say that. Sad to think a 900 is the 757 replacement. The thing is really underwhelming. Nicest thing I can say about it.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1697440)

Good update from C20. While contractually legal, I really believe the way this whole thing was handled was disrespectful both by the company and the senior MEC types. The bid changed- drastically. They should have pulled it but didn't.

Also, given the "reduced growth" in the Atlantic, I'd say that is with high probability the final nail in the coffin of a "cure" for the JV balance. SD is a lawyer, so you have to read between the lines in what he writes. All the TATL growth is certainly not ours. Given that 25% of our largest metal is going away via assistance from our TATL network, the logic points one direction with regard to our TATL growth. Shrinking? Doubtful. Anemic? With certainty.

That was a great update they put out.

There are at least two nefarious things going on with this bid change. I'm just not sure what they are yet.

Now, if they want to pay protect me for what I can hold and then lock me, fine.

Two's in.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697484)

Mostly because all of those companies are state supported....

They are still ugly, and I wouldn't be caught dead in one.

Who the crap cares about aircraft type? Are you that childish? Is this a NASCAR race where we're cheering for a chevy or a ford? Airbus, Boeing.... we fly them and get paid.

None of this changes the fact that we actively codeshare with these carriers. They are flying people that bought tickets from the company that employs us. I didn't like flying the 737, but you don't see me making statements that I'd never get caught dead flying it. This is not about an airplane type- this is about scope. We are rapidly parking 25% of our largest fleet type with no replacement on property (apparently the 333IGW will be the capacity replacement when it gets here via reading between the lines), while our codeshare partners expand their "premium" fleets.

You don't care about small end scope, and I get that since it is mostly self mitigating at this point in time (the pendulum will swing the other way). However, this is top end jobs at DL being whisked away actively. Korean Air believes they should be doing all the Pacific flying. You've heard RA say that at the meetings.

So... where do we go from here? You constantly harp on hopey changey stuff yet you have presented so few ideas of your own- just mostly insults to others. Let's hear it, t. What can we do with the dynamics of the last few days other than ride the wave?