I've had the Samsung Galaxy. I was less than impressed.

What a bunch of maroons. All that is going to happen is some careers are going to get ruined.

I had a somewhat related experience last month with crew tracking and the duty pilot. Had a 30 hour layover in OKC with a 6AM departure out of OKC after the layover. I had visited some family during my 30 hour layover (I'm originally from Oklahoma) and made a point to be back to the hotel by 7:30 that night so I could give myself the opportunity for 8 hours of sleep before our 4:40AM pickup the next morning.

Turns out they were having the "OKC Fest" downtown that night, culminating in a full length outdoor concert performance by Lady Antebellum just a few blocks from the hotel. In spite of the noise coming from the concert venue with previous bands playing, I started trying to go to sleep about 8pm. It just wasn't happening. No way I could go to sleep with that level of noise. Tried all my usual tricks like turning up the air conditioning fan to high and using the white noise app on my phone. Wasn't enough to mask the booming bass and other noise coming from the concert. As I began to research this whole thing and try to figure out when the noise might end, I discovered that Lady Antebellum wasn't scheduled to even start until 10PM. I figured about 1 1/2 hours for the concert, which put the first opportunity I would have to get 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep at about 11:30PM. Clearly, a 4:40AM pickup wasn't going to be in compliance with the FAR 117 requirement to have an opportunity for 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep... so I called Crew Tracking to give them a heads up on the situation.

In the course of talking to both Crew Tracking and the duty pilot, they tried to suggest that I didn't need the 8 hour sleep opportunity as long as I felt rested enough to do the flight the next morning. I had to hold my ground on this because I was clearly not getting an 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity per FAR 117. Ultimately, they went along with what I decided, which delayed the flight the next morning by over 3 hours. But I got the impression they were doing that based on my assessment that I wouldn't be rested for the flight any earlier than that and NOT based on the 8 hour sleep opportunity specified in FAR 117. I did write an ASR on the situation and never heard anything back from it.

It appears there is some difference in interpretation on some of the rules in play here. (Although with this particular rule, I don't see how it's open to any interpretation as it is very clearly worded.) Anyway, word to the wise, be careful out there. It's one thing to do what you can to help the company out within the context of our contract (which I am more than willing to do in most situations) but it's quite another thing to violate an FAR.

Oh come on. Maroon isn't that bad of a color. My last car was maroon! :D

Well I think some guys could lose jobs if it causes any real disruption, but the regionals are pretty desperate and if some get fired, they can probably get a job with GoJets, PenAir, Silver, or Mesa via a simple phone call... It's getting really bad out there on the lower end.

It's a galacticaly stupid idea... Ballsy and stupid, and I would not advise ANYONE to participate or post there.

What is the basis for your advice?

Just curious.

Exactly. So why make an inevitable outcome worse by ruining one's career?

I think you could've left the "ballsy" adjective out of your description. :D There's nothing "ballsy" about committing career-suicide by "signing up" for an Illegal Job Action under the RLA.

Good day.

Exactly. Even disregarding the RLA, FAR's and contract law, The Core Values/Rules of the Road clearly say "always keep your deals".

This isn't just a generic contractual line item. This is a huge issue of personal and corporate honor, trust and integrity. A deal was made and the intent was very clear to both sides. That three year deal wasn't honored, but there was a 1 year "cure period" in that deal. We are 1/3 of the way through that cure period, and still haven't been told what, if anything, has been done.

If there hasn't been significant progress so far, then its clear the entire 4 year deal is going to be knowingly and intentionally violated. Even if we are push overs and sell those job equivalents for some pieces of silver, where's the integrity in that for either side? More importantly, why does our leadership rabidly insist on using our pilot group (not to mention other work groups) only as a last resort bare minimum goal as required by contract, and even then goes below it?

I support these guys. They are doing what needs to be done on the Express level to reach through the shell game and put leverage on those who control the market.

Their effort is doomed before it begins and I am in no way saying they should go forward, I'm saying they have a moral (if not legal) right to withdraw their services whenever they damned well please.

It would make a great debate in a Constitutional Law class. Wonder if anyone has ever challenged the RLA on the basis of the 13th Amendment.