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Isn't it seat kilometers instead of flights? If they added 2 380s, DAL would have to add 4 767s or they would have to reduce the equivalent number of seat miles from the code share. At least that is the way I understood all this.

Yeah, I just said two flights to keep it simple. I like the ESK system, but its a pretty big oversight that AF can add an "all cargo" 747 and that not count towards the cargo portion when cargo capabilities on a revenue passenger flight counts. Pretty big loophole, especially considering its completely one sided and likely always will be,

Elliot

07-23-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjockey (Post 1690191)

4611 aint cutting it

I know I'm going to regret asking this, but what's 4611?

Jockey is using "4611" as an example of what Delta Mgmt. will offer for the next contractual pay increases.

tsquare

07-23-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjockey (Post 1690191)

4611 aint cutting it

I'd take 4611 in a heartbeat if we started getting paid at sign in and stopped at block in +30.

DAL 88 Driver

07-23-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1690215)

I know I'm going to regret asking this, but what's 4611?

I'm guessing it's the net effect of pay rate increases in C2012 after inflation?

Alan Shore

07-23-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1690229)

I'm guessing it's the net effect of pay rate increases in C2012 after inflation?

Sounds about right.

DAL 88 Driver

07-23-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1690227)

I'd take 4611 in a heartbeat if we started getting paid at sign in and stopped at block in +30.

I agree, T. But we wouldn't even need to increase our pay rates if we did that. Here's my last trip for example:

4-day trip - paid 21:19 @$199.57 => $4,255

If we got paid at sign in and stopped at block in +30 (release for each day), here's what it would have paid:
4-day trip - would pay 35:50 @ $199.57 => $7,145

That's a 68% increase... MORE than full restoration of 2004 (C2K) buying power. Just by being paid with the same methodology as almost every other hourly worker known to man.

shiznit

07-23-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by index (Post 1690205)

Did you mean 2015 for the second numbers?

D'oh!

Yes. Completely busted. Thanks, my brain must have been thinking the "payout" for the 2014 earnings.

I just hope PD doesn't harass me for the next two weeks over it!

(and WTH is 4611?)

80ktsClamp

07-23-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1690243)

D'oh!

Yes. Completely busted. Thanks, my brain must have been thinking the "payout" for the 2014 earnings.

I just hope PD doesn't harass me for the next two weeks over it!

(and WTH is 4611?)

PD got the banhammer from a site admin last night. :eek:

Alan Shore

07-23-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1690244)

PD got the banhammer from a site admin last night. :eek:

What did he do?

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