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Purple Drank 07-22-2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1689577)

As you read there is directive language in the fact that the company "will" return to compliance in the one year cure. If that does not happen, and at the end of this period, and only then is there a violation of the PWA by the "company."

Obviously, the company won't be in compliance.

So at 0001 on 1 April 2015, DALPA will do...what, exactly? Laugh at us and say "April Fools?"

tsquare 07-22-2014 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1689594)
Obviously, the company won't be in compliance.
So at 0001 the day the "cure" period ends, DALPA will do...what, exactly?

Call your rep and tell him what to do. I certainly will.

acl65pilot 07-22-2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1689592)
What is the remedy clause? We will have damages. No doubt. What is the remedy to make us whole?

Is the same process we have in place for large violations of the PWA. We can grieve it, or negotiate it. Not sure there is much taste for the second, but the first will take a ton of time during section 6.

Also codifying damages of non compliance in the PWA just would make contractual violations a business decision. IE violate the EASK provisions just pay the pilots dollars. Trust me, you do that, you create data that makes violating the PWA a good business decision. IE a dangerous road to travel. Esp w scope.

acl65pilot 07-22-2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1689594)
Obviously, the company won't be in compliance.

So at 0001 on 1 April 2015, DALPA will do...what, exactly? Laugh at us and say "April Fools?"

No idea. The MEC has not made a decision nor do they need to. Not yet. But they are watching it and getting a lot of data on it.

Spudhauler 07-22-2014 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1689325)
The topic came up in the context of retirement savings.

Either way, take yearly income, less opportunity cost, compounded by whatever rate you believe. (My investment experience has been an overall 9.5 average, but I use 7 for my retirement modeling) To match what my father enjoys from FedEx, plus inlfation, will take me about 4.5 million in producing assets.

Alternatively take the view that new hires know the deal and lost nothing.

I think those who lost the most are those who have not yet been hired due to outsourcing.

Matters not which view you take. My family dealt with more than 7 years of furlough and I do understand your frustration with events. Even more so since your furlough could have been mitigated better than it was. Rather than complaining about J C Lawson, the Delta MEC could have simply negotiated with Delta to hire Delta pilots at Delta's divisions who were rapidly hiring.

Bar, with all due respect, unless you were furloughed yourself you don't know what you're talking about. All you are doing at this point is insulting those of who were. In my case, everything went to hell; home, spouse, job-all gone. Your pointed jabs need to stop, please.

Purple Drank 07-22-2014 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1689600)
No idea. The MEC has not made a decision nor do they need to. Not yet. But they are watching it and getting a lot of data on it.

I feel better now.

Scoop 07-22-2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1689554)
Had the best luck with FedEx at the airport. The stores (particularly the former Kinkos) seem to take a perverse pride in not facilitating any business with FedEx at any price.

Have you considered Delta DASH?



Yes, and that is the option I have chosen. It is a really, really, good deal.

Scoop :D

FlyZ 07-22-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1689598)
Is the same process we have in place for large violations of the PWA. We can grieve it, or negotiate it. Not sure there is much taste for the second, but the first will take a ton of time during section 6.

Also codifying damages of non compliance in the PWA just would make contractual violations a business decision. IE violate the EASK provisions just pay the pilots dollars. Trust me, you do that, you create data that makes violating the PWA a good business decision. IE a dangerous road to travel. Esp w scope.

If that's the case, why don't we negotiate new scope restrictions for this scope violation? Ie, they have to go beyond just getting back in compliance, but move another x% of flying to Delta metal? Keeps us from putting a dollar figure with it.

johnso29 07-22-2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1689533)
Search around the posts here from Spring of 2012. My posts included the numbers and the link to the website.

Carl

I'll dig. Thanks.

johnso29 07-22-2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1689535)
No - it was a FDX/Kinkos. Their discounted price was correct - the over the phone quote was incorrect. Big heavy box = big $$$$$.

Anyhow, what would have cost over $200 via FDX with the discount was only $36 via Delta Dash. Delta Dash rocks, but it is airport to airport which is not as convenient as FDX to the door, but at that savings I can live with it.

Scoop :)

Wow. That's a huge difference cost wise. How long will it take via Delta Dash?


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