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OK 737 drivers I need some info...... What headsets are popular with the Delta guppy crowd?
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 1689112)
OK 737 drivers I need some info...... What headsets are popular with the Delta guppy crowd?
It is by far the loudest flight deck I've worked. The unfortunate part is most crews don't talk via the intercom, which involves a rubber band, so you will inevitably end up pulling the inboard earcup off, resulting in pre-mature, asymmetrical deafness. So for me it wasn't really worth buying an expensive headset to only use 50% of its capability. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1688701)
Look acl, you simply have to correct this. I know there are some daisies here who hate it when I come after you the way I would like to right now, so I'll hold back.
Our JV is out of balance RIGHT NOW. Has been since March. We're now in the correction period, yet you and the rest of DALPA has been dead silent. Those are actual facts, and I KNOW you know it. So why did you say what you said above? Carl Read the PWA. It states that at the end of the three year measurement period, the company has one year to cure the deficit. IE, they are not out of compliance until the end of the cure period. No judge or arbitrator is going to side with labor if you file a grievance before the end of the one year measurement period. The non-compliance does not occur until the end of the cure period. Plain and simple. We can agree or disagree about the language of the PWA and if it does or does not need to be changed, but what that does not do is change the language DAL is contractually held to. There is not non-compliance until the end of the cure period. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1688693)
This is troubling since I know you know better. DALPA was asked by its members why they omitted our JV competitors in the contract comparisons leading up to C2012. ALPA had that pay data. ALPA said they did not want to publish it. They said their reason was that they were asked not to...while not producing any evidence of such communication. I found Air France's pay data in one minute and posted it here. It had everything to do with "didn't want." ALPA had the data, but didn't want to put it in the contract comparisons.
ALPA had the data. So did I. I published it here, ALPA wouldn't. Read above and you'll this statement of yours is completely false. And since you're a current rep, that troubles me. I would have hoped as a current rep you would be fighting hard for an open and completely transparent contract comparison. Instead, you're here now setting us up for why we will yet again NOT see our JV competitors' contract details in our contract comparisons...even though ALPA has the data. We don't know if that's a fact acl. It's clearly you're opinion, but please don't confuse your personal opinions with fact. Carl You miss the point. ALPA does have the data, but the pay data that you have from the internet is just one part of it. ALPA does have the data, but they had to agree not to publish it to see it. ALPA has stated that the data is not as clear as you like to state it to be. I have not seen the data FWIW. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1688592)
PAY ME! PAY ME! I'm out of here in 5 years, Contract 2000, restoration, PLUS INTEREST! Pay Me! DPA, DPA, Contract 2012 wasn't anywhere near enough, PAY ME, I'm not thinking ahead and not supporting my union either, PAY ME. http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/R...Yc60t0LNil.jpg Oh, what's that I hear? http://careersearchtoday.com/wp-cont...nt-150x150.jpg http://www.windermere.com/uploads/ck...nt_ForSale.jpg Folks, what I am advocating here is:
Bar, good points. I would also not state your last the way you have. Those negotiations and results did not go unchallenged, it was not the majority position to challenge them more formally. There was plenty of discussion and back and forth on this issue last year, and some of it was in plenary in DC. I think you heard about that. |
Originally Posted by DFW Refugee
(Post 1688780)
Oberon:
When's your TOE? Consider: --Calling the transport company direct. Any static from them, suggest their driver may not be happy later. --Call the LCA and let him know you may be late, and why. --Call the Pilot Support Center, and ask for support...let them stay on hold with crew accommodations. --Call scheds and tell them you can't fly---> your ear's still sore. :D Good Luck and have FUN! DFW The 1:45 van works because a bottle of mouthwash soiled my extra shirt and I need to stop by the Flight Station (or whatever its called). Hopefully it works out. Thanks for the help! |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1689081)
I've been on this board for a lot of years but don't keep up with it all that consistently anymore, so maybe I missed something. But I don't see the discussions taking place the past few days/weeks to be any different than any number of discussions we've had over the past years. It appears to me that a lot of the complaints about this thread the past couple of days are really just an attempt to silence dissent.
If you guys want to turn it into strictly a rumor thread, answer a few questions, post a few pictures, exchange BBQ recipes, etc., then I guess that's fine. It'll be one less thing to occupy a slice of my time... which is probably a good thing. Think about it. I can live with whatever you guys decide. DAL, I don't think that is what is going on here. I have been on this thread for years also and every once in a while it takes a downturn. Page after page of back and forth with insults, condescension, and degradation thrown in old can get old real fast. (I am not talking about anyone in particular here - see below regarding nuance). Dissent is needed on this thread. It would be pretty boring with everyone agreeing with each other. What a lot of guys, including myself, don't like to see are the personal insults. A lot of communication is nonverbal - we lose that on an internet forum and often guys go high and right at the drop of a hat and then berate and belittle fellow DAL pilots. Sometimes this is out of genuine disagreement, but sometimes it is from the lack of nuance we have on the forum. I don't understand why oftentimes many are not willing to give a fellow DAL Pilot the benefit of the doubt. In either case it is wrong to get personal, and most guys will not even read these posts past a certain point. The poster who sticks to the facts with a well thought out and analytical post will be the first to change anothers opinion on this forum (if that is even possible :D). I really appreciate the divers points of view even though I don't always agree with them. Scoop |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1689162)
Carl;
Read the PWA. It states that at the end of the three year measurement period, the company has one year to cure the deficit. IE, they are not out of compliance until the end of the cure period. No judge or arbitrator is going to side with labor if you file a grievance before the end of the one year measurement period. The non-compliance does not occur until the end of the cure period. Plain and simple. We can agree or disagree about the language of the PWA and if it does or does not need to be changed, but what that does not do is change the language DAL is contractually held to. There is not non-compliance until the end of the cure period. |
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Delta just shut down operations at Tel Aviv until further notice. All flights cancelled.
Good call. Carl |
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