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scambo1 07-17-2014 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1685929)
My point is twofold.

Why do we need such a position, now?

Emphasis now.

Why are we creating a position that basically was covered under the Communication Chairman under full FPL?

The FBI is getting close???:D

NuGuy 07-17-2014 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1685961)
Agreed. In your opinion then, is there a substantial difference in the influence that the MEC has, for example, over the Negotiating Committee vs. over the Communications Committee (through the MEC Chairman)?

In theory, the NC is more "independent" than committees who's Chair's job is beholden to the MEC Chair. There is a reason this is National policy vs local policy.

But in practice, the MEC Chair is an "ex-officio" member of the committee. Further, at DAL, the Strategic Planning Committee, serves as the "research & planning" arm as well (the Chair is a full time flight pay loss position), and all of those positions are appointed.

Nu

Alan Shore 07-17-2014 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1685654)
Why, yes! Of course it is!

http://www.pressingsave.com/golfpro/...illy-Wonka.jpg

Says Alan Shore.

I doż????????

NERD 07-17-2014 06:36 AM

TFB! We have families and other obligations beyond delta. They can't expect people to fly 12 days straight and totally ignore their bids because of their poor planning. Even if someone lives in base this is unsat.





Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1686000)
There has been letter after letter put out by both the company and DALPA on why the 88 and 320 rotations have degraded. The company is running strictly a min credit solution this summer on rotation construction for the 88. You can read any one of several letters for the reasons why. The problem is not because of the rotation changes but the fact those changes have all been removed until fall.


Timbo 07-17-2014 06:38 AM

Thanks for the Rotation Construction Survey reminder Buzz. I just did it, like you said, about 10 minutes.

DO IT NOW!! It closes tomorrow!!

There is a 1500 word comment section at the end, be sure to air your grievances there! I told them how much we HATE 12 day trips!

http://www.surveysoftware.net/hostal/DLRotation2014.htm

Alan Shore 07-17-2014 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1686016)
TFB! We have families and other obligations beyond delta. They can't expect people to fly 12 days straight and totally ignore their bids because of their poor planning. Even if someone lives in base this is unsat.

I'm looking through the August bid results and can't find a line in which the pilot was forced into multiple back to back trips. What category are we talking about?

Also, trip mix has nothing to do with available days off in PBS. That is purely a function of what days off have been awarded to more senior pilots.

sailingfun 07-17-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1686003)
Yeah...we all loved how the 5:15/dy doesn't kick in until November....

"Programming delay" my butt.

I never saw that it was a programming delay. It requires more pilots and is the reason they doubled the hiring in JUN and Jul.

sailingfun 07-17-2014 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1686016)
TFB! We have families and other obligations beyond delta. They can't expect people to fly 12 days straight and totally ignore their bids because of their poor planning. Even if someone lives in base this is unsat.

The poor planning was the delay in 717 deliveries. There was another solution however this forum would have gone crazy had DALPA agreed to it. That would have been to waive the ALV yearly average on the 88.

Scoop 07-17-2014 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1685995)
My schedule has gotten worse on the 88 due to these rotation construction changes. My schedule next month has 11 days straight of nothing but 4 day trips. On trip finishes in the morning then start another 4 day in the evening. I wish we had it in the PWA that requires a minimum 1-2 days off in domicile between trips that only the pilots can waive. I can put it in PBS but it is just going to ignore the request.


That does sound like a tough schedule - but I don't think it is as a result of the RCC survey. We just waited too long to start hiring.

I assume you bid the minimum base layover and were denied. One good thing with all the new hires going into the '88 your seniority should rapidly improve.


Scoop

sailingfun 07-17-2014 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1686018)
Thanks for the Rotation Construction Survey reminder Buzz. I just did it, like you said, about 10 minutes.

DO IT NOW!! It closes tomorrow!!

There is a 1500 word comment section at the end, be sure to air your grievances there! I told them how much we HATE 12 day trips!

Delta Rotation Construction Survey 2014

One thing that should be possible is to look at the trip awards in each category. That would immediate feedback on pilot rotation construction in each category.


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