Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1682379)

Not saying I agree with it, but I thought the whole goal of a corporation is to "increase shareholder wealth." Paying dividends and driving up the stock price seems to be in line with that idea.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1682672)

That's PBS. No protection for the junior if all the senior guys want the same thing.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1682641)

I tried to backdoor ATL 777A's for AUG and got the same thing.

Hopefully, they will be out soon. :)

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1682347)

Wow, if true that's very interesting. I didn't think it would work, but I didn't think it wouldn't work as bad as it apparently isn't working.

I just assumed they would lower the standards (or increase the tolerances, however one would like to phrase it) but if those numbers were anywhere near correct, they could triple their success rate and still not make a dent.

As for the other side of that strategy, how's morale been with the troops with the arrival of the first of the "golden children"?

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1682677)

T,

It is more complicated than that. Yes we are in a service industry, but we are labor. It is managements job to provide good service and a great management team should be able to provide great service.

Part of what a good or great management team will do includes keeping morale high among the front line personnel. If morale drops because of actions taken by management it should be no surprise to anyone that service will deteriorate in a service industry.

This is one thing we currently have to a much greater degree than our main completion UAL and AMR. Morale at DAL is very high for most of us, hopefully it will remain high, but if management goes into C-2015 and tries to drag it out or feels there is no need to improve Pilot compensation - moral will probably suffer.

As far as the ME carriers go - we will never be able to compete with them because the playing field is not even. They are allowed to discriminate - we are not. I imagine that if we could require our cabin crew to be under 30, smoking hot, and single it might help. But more important than the physical characteristics are the attitudes. Many of these employees come from Nations with very little economic opportunity, these gals feel like they won the lottery when they are hired and they basically did.

Happy workers make it easy to provide good service. Happy, smoking hot workers makes it even easier. :D

Scoop

Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1682379)

Not saying I agree with it, but I thought the whole goal of a corporation is to "increase shareholder wealth." Paying dividends and driving up the stock price seems to be in line with that idea.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1682721)

I don't disagree with any of what you said, (except that is partially OUR job to ensure good customer service) and you know that I probably despise the ME carriers only slightly less than you (a debatable point actually). I absolutely agree that it will be up to management to ensure the morale remains high going forward, and a great C15 will do that. My post was specifically addressing Purple's contention that doing anything beyond the contract does nothing for us as a whole and only benefits management. Frankly, it is like the before takeoff announcement. Doing what's required only is certainly acceptable, but as a passenger it is really nice to know that the pilots recognize that you are back there. (I am fully expecting to get an earful over this). It is just a nice touch to say something about the weather, the climbout, the time enroute, welcome aboard... anything in addition to the sterile "book" announcement. Let them know there is something besides an automoton up front. Fire away Purple, I can hardly wait.

Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1682715)

Morale is so low, you can do anything to this group, and they don't care. We have concessionary LOA's every few months here to keep the operation going. When I ask why the union keeps doing it, it's so they can "keep it going long enough, for people to get out."

What I wonder, is who is going to take our flying next year when this place shuts down, who can absorb 100+ aircraft. They are spending millions on refurbishing 30ish 200's, those will go straight to the desert. That billion plus they spent on new aircraft: Straight to the desert next year.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1682687)

Go look at number 19 on it, he's not too junior, on the second page of awards, and working 15 days in a row, for 76hrs! :eek:

Maybe he bid it that way but still...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1682722)

Why don't you agree with it? Is that a bad thing?