Depends on who you are quoting. This is a decrease from what the recruiters were told just a week or two ago. It is very large increase from any official numbers posted by Flight Operations management.

The new LOA will help our staffing. Erosion of top line scope and a merger with a carrier which is under-utilizing it's crews and aircraft will hurt; we've seen that before.

I don't know anything and only have my own analysis to work on, but, both Hawaiian and Skymarks have significant network issues that Delta can fix. Skymarks problems are so bad that Airbus is refusing to deliver new specially built and configured A380's because it fears it will never be paid. Airbus states before JFK - Haneda flights can begin, Skymarks must have a codeshare partner. Further, the other carriers in the region all enjoy immunized joint ventures except for .... Delta.

Skymarks CEO (my impression) is a bit of an idiot and maybe lacks integrity making him a very difficult player to actually do business with. They need an IT solution, they need a network solution. Only Delta has what they need, but they have thus far stubbornly refused. I've never seen a manufacturer be as blunt as EADS has with Skymarks. Makes for interesting reading.

Korean Air is much more pragmatic even though it is a State owned carrier.

Then we have Hawaiian, who is doing well on inter-island flying, but who faces challenges on their long haul network. None of the Asian long haul carriers are doing particularly well, but Hawaiian's assets would instantly be more productive and profitable in the Delta network. We should have bought them at $5.60 a share. But if you see the cash we just set aside, it is near current market cap at 3x the valuation where I got tired of waiting and sold my shares.

... and I do not know if means anything, but those smart men who ran for and were elected to our merger committee had already built integration models for Hawaiian pilots.

A union's job is to control who flies the airplanes the airline buys.

Settle down captain happy.

Well, "if you guys allow more RJs we will acquire 717s" comes to mind as an example of us supposedly controlling what the airline buys. :)

However, you are asking a good question, how many jobs does a A380 create vs a A330 all things considered. Because if the A330 is more then give me A330s.

Sailing?

TOTD?

Definitely a Captain Happy in the making.

Good Scope.

DALPA seems to take credit for the 717 citing C2012. The only thing C2012 did was allow MORE 76 seaters.

DALPA claiming C2012 is responsible for XXX Captain positions is no more credible than saying C2012 is responsible for sudden retirement of 747s. I just wish DALPA focused more on protecting my career and less on patting themselves on the back and taking credit for anything good at Delta.

Do the Hawiian pilots get relative percentage?

You know Bar, every time you talk about our merger you put your foot in your mouth. The NWA MEC was never worried about being treated like ASA, Comair or Compass. Not for a minute, not for a second.

You didn't do anything different than we did. We both tried to negotiations. It failed. Then we went to arbitration. Quit trying to portray the former Delta pilot group as having done something extraordinary for another pilot group. You didn't.

Carl

I don't know. Maybe we Delta pilots should join a union and find out.

If we do join one someday, we'll get a scope which won't say what airplanes the airline must buy, but WHO will fly them.

It does no such thing. The only thing that decides our share of the flying is Delta management in its sole discretion.

Yes it does...but whose jobs?

Carl