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Rather B Fishin 08-01-2014 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1697265)
Wrong!

https://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pr...08/2008-10.pdf

Which is why I don't support the ALPA PAC.

You should retract your assertion.

8 years ago in aviation is a lifetime. Why don't you check out what the PAC is doing now. Pilot Partisan.

buzzpat 08-01-2014 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1697321)
8 years ago in aviation is a lifetime. Why don't you check out what the PAC is doing now. Pilot Partisan.

Not to nitpick, but it was 6 years ago. I, too, am a pilot partisan. I'm also a partisan American who believes in the greater good. I do check out what the PAC is doing.

Just countering Starcheck's assertion that ALPA hasn't endorsed presidential candidates, most notably the current one.

gloopy 08-01-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1697302)
Agreed here. They can do whatever they want with the planes but we have got to stop granting monthly contractual relief.

#dry-erase-marker contract

Really. And we need to start getting at least monthly updates from DALPA on where the JV balance stands. Every month that goes by only exacerbates the inevitable 100% for sure to happen contractual violation. Yes we are in the "cure period" in which the company has an opportunity to "keep its deals" [name that source] but we're already a third of the way through that period. If nothing is being done, and we're about to go even further the other way, then its obvious the company is engaging in flagrant bad faith planning.

We gave them the cure period, so they have controls right now. We're the pilots monitoring. We've were told to level off at FL230. We're currently at FL232 and the company is on a 6000 FPM redline descent with full boards out. But, technically, they haven't busted the altitude yet. I guess we should wait until after they do before we say something. Right?

slowplay 08-01-2014 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1697324)
Not to nitpick, but it was 6 years ago. I, too, am a pilot partisan. I'm also a partisan American who believes in the greater good. I do check out what the PAC is doing.

Just countering Starcheck's assertion that ALPA hasn't endorsed presidential candidates, most notably the current one.

Starcheck was partially correct.

ALPA didn't endorse Obama. Prater contacted several large MEC's and there wasn't enough consensus to do so, and the Executive Board never voted. Prater as ALPA president personally endorsed Obama. Prater as ALPA president voted for the AFL-CIO to endorse Obama.

I believe, however, that Starcheck is wrong on ALPA ever endorsing a Presidential candidate. I believe ALPA endorsed Clinton in 1996 and Kerry in 2004 through votes of the Executive Board.

Take a look at the PAC website. Last time I checked it was 60D-40R for contributions and growing more balanced all the time. Pilot Partisan ALPA has made some good friends on both sides of the aisle, with almost every letter or legislative action sponsored or pushed by ALPA coming with sponsors from both major parties.

Carl Spackler 08-01-2014 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1697198)
That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates...

...You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill.


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1697204)
Carl?... retract? You must be joking.

This isn't for tsquare because it's just not possible for him to do anything else but what he does as shown above. But Starcheck, my assertions are not false. The article from Prater when he was ALPA president that Buzzpat posted is just one example. Many MEC's have either directly endorsed or strongly urged its members to vote straight Democrat. So now I'll ask you: Will you retract your assertions? Will you retract calling my statements of fact "offensive?"

Carl

jabwmu 08-01-2014 06:16 PM

Pay question.

Does a line holder get paid half the reserve guarantee or half the AVL on the end of the month paycheck?

Thanks.

Carl Spackler 08-01-2014 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1697261)
If we have a bid in 2014 but displacements from that bid are not done until 2015 can you guys go to the 777 or does the bid actually have to be posted after Jan 1 2015?

My understanding is that the AE has to close after Jan 1, 2015 before anyone can bid to or displace to a formerly fenced aircraft.

Carl

casual observer 08-01-2014 06:29 PM

If we're getting rid of old 747's, the only sensible thing to do would be to replace them with new ones.


http://www.pro-travel-tips.com/image...opshot_580.jpg

forgot to bid 08-01-2014 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 1697413)
If we're getting rid of old 747's, the only sensible thing to do would be to replace them with new ones.


http://www.pro-travel-tips.com/image...opshot_580.jpg

There's no money in long haul passenger transportation.

Carl Spackler 08-01-2014 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1697267)
Anything that interferes with your personal narrative just can't make a dent.

What about the posts in response to your false assertions Starcheck? Do their interference in your personal narrative (and the ALPA PAC's narrative) make a dent?


Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 1697267)
The dollar amounts and the recipients are on the ALPA PAC website. Look them up, I won't spoon feed you.

OK, I did. This is from the list of non-incumbents to which ALPA PAC supported financially for House and Senate seats:

2007-2008: Democrats 21...Republicsns 0

2009-2010: Democrats 24...Republicans 3

2011-2012: Democrats 40...Republicans 5

2013-2014: Democrats 21...Republicans 1

My statements that ALPA and the ALPA PAC are left wing organizations and not at all "pilot partisan" stands.

Carl


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