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RockyBoy 12-27-2014 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 1791339)
I agree. I just heard that the 330 program was told to prep for possible new hires going through.
The word on the NYC 765 is that it remained senior because of no backfills for a while.
Will see.

Still don't see it, but that would be awesome.

Maybe they know something they aren't telling us like they have moved up deliveries for the 330 and will not be parking the 747's. Maybe they will throw out 100 CA and 100 FO vacancies on the airplane in a couple short bids. If they did that and had vacancies on both the 747 and 777, we might see it go that junior. Maybe the MOAB is coming here shortly, been waiting on that sucker now for 8 years.

Hillbilly 12-27-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1791268)
When NWA first got the A330 every flight was 2 CA/1FO since none of the FO's were typed. One CA would be in the left seat for T/O, the other for landing.
Also, I am not sure if it is still correct, but I believe every Captain is technically qualified in the right seat but can only be re-scheduled into that seat away from base.


Originally Posted by 10000 (Post 1791341)
What if he only sat in the relief seat only for takeoff and landings and took first break?

I don't think that is allowed today. While it might be legal in the eyes of the FAA, it would be a violation of our PWA to have someone perform flying from a category/position other than their own. A LCA performing LCA duties from a control seat is the only exception I am aware of. The company would have to determine who the FO was that should have gotten the flying and pay him/her as though they had done the flying. Also the Captain that got put on the trip as a 3rd wheel should probably get assignment pay since there is technically no way to voluntarily do that flying.

There are probably some odd ball situations that can lead to this with the company attempting to maintain schedule integrity, but I think they probably all end up with some kind of premium pay for the affected pilots. Whoever the pilots are, they all need to contact the MEC Scheduling Committee on Monday and report the issue so those guys can audit the trip for PWA compliance. If they don't, they are doing a disservice to us all.

iaflyer 12-27-2014 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1791338)
I saw recently that we can now go through KCM in plain clothes.

Does this apply to nonrev as well? Do we need to be commuting to/from work or is any travel now fair game? I've looked around and can't seem to find anywhere that says we can't use it for regular nonrev.

Anyone know for sure and preferably have a source to back it up?

It hasn't been changed yet to wear plain clothes, the date is Jan 13th, 2015.

Here is a authoritative source as to whether you need to be working a flight or not. Doesn't look like you need to be working a flight. Remember, it's not that you are skipping TSA screening, you are using a alternative form of screening. (http://www.knowncrewmember.org/Pages/Crewmembers.aspx):

Q: Does a crewmember need to be working a flight in order to use the KCM access point?
A: No. TSA headquarters’ states that a crewmember must be currently employed with a KCM participating airline, on active status and in the airline’s KCM database. TSA security officers are not responsible for determining whether a crewmember is working a flight in order to use a KCM access point. Please remember, a crewmember may be randomly selected to undergo additional screening, as there is a random screening element with all Risked Based Security (RBS) screening programs.

poostain 12-27-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 1791367)
117.11 says 17 hours.

That is the Max flt time. I'm looking for the MAX FDP. I thought it was about 18:30 or 20:30 with the extension but not sure.

LeineLodge 12-27-2014 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1791385)
It hasn't been changed yet to wear plain clothes, the date is Jan 13th, 2015.

Here is a authoritative source as to whether you need to be working a flight or not. Doesn't look like you need to be working a flight. Remember, it's not that you are skipping TSA screening, you are using a alternative form of screening. (http://www.knowncrewmember.org/Pages/Crewmembers.aspx):

Q: Does a crewmember need to be working a flight in order to use the KCM access point?
A: No. TSA headquarters’ states that a crewmember must be currently employed with a KCM participating airline, on active status and in the airline’s KCM database. TSA security officers are not responsible for determining whether a crewmember is working a flight in order to use a KCM access point. Please remember, a crewmember may be randomly selected to undergo additional screening, as there is a random screening element with all Risked Based Security (RBS) screening programs.

Great info. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

Purple Drank 12-27-2014 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1791411)
Great info. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

I believe our FOM specifies that we must be working a flight to use KCM.

Purple Drank 12-27-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1791242)
How can we settle something when the violation has yet to occur? Another strike by the AF pilots next quarter and the company might well be in compliance. Usually settlements occur after the violation.

You might as well ask how we can finalize a contract before it's amendable (see C12).

The company has a lot of motivation to prevent it from becoming a violation. With Richard's "Rules of the Road" (it exhorts us to "keep your deals"), no way the company can answer the mail on ignoring the contract.

Wonder if HK's resignation is in any way related to this rumored settlement?

DARR31 12-27-2014 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1791436)
I believe our FOM specifies that we must be working a flight to use KCM.

No it does not. The only part that might lead you to think so is about wear of the uniform in the FOM which states "The uniform will not be worn when on vacation or personal business for the purpose of utilizing the KCM security process."

There is nothing about working the flight.

sailingfun 12-27-2014 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1791338)
I saw recently that we can now go through KCM in plain clothes.

Does this apply to nonrev as well? Do we need to be commuting to/from work or is any travel now fair game? I've looked around and can't seem to find anywhere that says we can't use it for regular nonrev.

Anyone know for sure and preferably have a source to back it up?

The change starts on 13 Jan. Yes you can use it at that point to non rev. You do have to abide by the same rules on what you carry through as if you were going through the regular screening. If not in uniform the liquid restriction applies being the main thing.

LeineLodge 12-27-2014 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1791447)
The change starts on 13 Jan. Yes you can use it at that point to non rev. You do have to abide by the same rules on what you carry through as if you were going through the regular screening. If not in uniform the liquid restriction applies being the main thing.

Thanks Sailing. I was also unaware of the liquid restriction.


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