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TOGA LK 06-08-2014 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1660845)
Carl,
You are boring. Your posts are the same old drivel. I am putting you back on ignore, and if you ever want to put your money where your big fat mouth is, send me a PM. 50 Grand. Should be easy money since you are so confident. But I expect not to hear from you because you are just a bunch of talk. Besides, didn't your boy call you back to the mother ship?

Later, big man.

Anyone ever mention you argue like a liberal? You quickly run out of facts and run on emotion. Thanks for all your yes votes over the years.

tsquare 06-08-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1660854)
Anyone ever mention you argue like a liberal? You quickly run out of facts and run on emotion. Thanks for all your yes votes over the years.


Nice try........... and you are welcome. You have had the best contract in the industry for a lot longer than you might have had otherwise.:p

scambo1 06-08-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1660848)
All any of this does is prove exactly why seat/equipment based pay is retarded.

Now T, that is non-sequitur.

I get TVM, LBP is not the purest answer. The best answer is to have seat/equipment pay that extends past a 12 year wall.

forgot to bid 06-08-2014 01:19 PM

I am done bidding and would like to argue with someone about something...

http://talks.furf.com/the-story-of-j...s/argument.gif

newKnow 06-08-2014 01:19 PM

This is going downhill fast.


Are you guys going to debate, or name call?

finis72 06-08-2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1660842)
Carl- Thanks for translating for me. Now I understand what he's saying. It makes absolutely no sense to me, but it is proof positive that some guys will claim they are winning despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Reminds me of the knight from Monty Python (..."I'm not dead yet...").

Let's carry finis "my 2004 pay rate and my 2014 pay rate are basically the same" argument to absurdity (trust me, we won't have to go far---it's already an absurd position).

Year 1 717 F/O hourly pay is $68.08. At the top of the food chain is 777 Capt pay at $262.38/hr.

Hypothetically, if pay rates were to decline a total of 76% across the board over a 30 year period, where at the end of that period today's new hire would make $68.08/hr as a 777 Capt, that Capt could then crow that pay rates are "about the same" over that 30 year period. Victory!

Finis--you shouldn't be comparing 2004 7ER pay to 2014 777 pay. Apples to oranges.

It's a fact that the 2014 777 rates are approximately 20% LOWER than 2004 777 rates. Plus it takes over $401/hr in TODAY'S dollars to equal $319.61/hr in 2004 dollars. That's the comparison you should be using.

I don't begrudge you for being content with what you have. If you're satisfied with what you're being paid then good for you. But I think most people here see through your transparent argument. At least Carl and I do. :D

Let's get one thing straight, I'm not happy with the pay rates. What I was alluding to is that there is much more to a contract then pay rates and under our current contract I'm making more money despite no change in hourly rates. Timbo mentioned " soft" money in a recent post and I agree with him. Focusing on just pay rates is myopic at best. OBTW I think we will be pushing for north of 20% on pay rates in 2015, just an opinion.

newKnow 06-08-2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1660866)
I am done bidding and would like to argue with someone about something...

http://talks.furf.com/the-story-of-j...s/argument.gif

Anything to get away from this name calling crap.

Who's going to win the national championship (football) next year?


I say the University of Illinois! :D

Denny Crane 06-08-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1660867)
This is going downhill fast.


Are you guys going to debate, or name call?


Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........................number 2!?!

Hey Scambo did you see what I did there? Maybe there is hope for me after all!:)

Denny

forgot to bid 06-08-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1660870)
Anything to get away from this name calling crap.

Who's going to win the national championship (football) next year?


I say the University of Illinois! :D

I am still melting. :mad:

Chose another subject.

forgot to bid 06-08-2014 01:26 PM

I will say the University of Illinois has the best fight song... wait... I may be talking about the wrong school.


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