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This airline was built by the guys who turn the wheels.
The pilots of Northwest and Delta. We sacrificed in bankruptcy and its time management showed us some respect. We need to be recognized for what we do. Every day. Restore this profession to its rightful place. |
Originally Posted by Doug Masters
(Post 1637479)
Next month I start commuting to SLC. Anyone know of some decent hotels with transportation and preferably free breakfast?
Thanks |
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1637643)
I, too, have been more or less willing to give him a honeymoon. But it's going to be tough to continue.
Some feel good letters, some lounge visits, some demands for unity, and...no results whatsoever. Wasn't an agreement forthcoming this time last month? He's getting some breathing room right now because of some AE movement, and folks are understandably excited about that. But the fact is, he has accomplished nothing. Obviously, my tolerance for dithering is below average. I am curious about where more moderate guys stand on a timeline for either some results, or some non-constructively-engaged decisive action. At what point is he effectively ineffective? I'm thinking that the fact we haven't settled for something we don't want is a good thing. Patience Grasshopper <-------giving my age away:o |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1637651)
This airline was built by the guys who turn the wheels.
The pilots of Northwest and Delta. We sacrificed in bankruptcy and its time management showed us some respect. We need to be recognized for what we do. Every day. Restore this profession to its rightful place. And don't you wish we could hire that ad agency? I'm so done with 'up' Ferd |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1637662)
So, you would rather have a quick vs good deal? (I'm thinking FAR 117 "stuff")
I'm thinking that the fact we haven't settled for something we don't want is a good thing. I voted for C2012, mainly because I perceived it to be an insurance contract against an uncertain economy. I hoped, and I suspected the economy was going to improve, but you could have made a great case for the opposite. Now, we're getting clearer and clearer glimpses into what's actually potentially available, and it looks quite substantial. As a result, it sure feels like a quick deal might not be the way to go. The price to pay for a big deal might be a long wait, but that might be the path to maximizing gains. One question in my mind is: who might be in the White House if it gets to a strike situation. I know Clinton appointed a PEB for AMR, but he did it after 38 minutes, not by telegraphing intentions ahead. This made the threat way more credible, and put a lot more pressure on the company. |
Thanks Roadkill and Denny for the hotel info.
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I agree with you Check Essential: our sacrifice in bankruptcy and general good will amongst the pilot group has helped this company tremendously. It is beyond time for adequate payback. Unfortunately I see this $2B stock buyback as good for investors-bad for pilots. You know when negotiation time comes around the company will have $2B less in available negotiating capital because its now earmarked for investors.
Its time to start rattling the swords. I want the company to know we aren't going to roll over. Now is the time for significant gains in pay and work rules. I think we need to come up with a slogan for this next negotiation. I'll bet the collective minds of APC could come up with something good. "2015- Time to shock the system" |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1637698)
While it's entirely possible that the company and union are currently coming to some sort of understanding on a small deal (entirely speculative, as I have no idea), I'm starting to think the same way.
I voted for C2012, mainly because I perceived it to be an insurance contract against an uncertain economy. I hoped, and I suspected the economy was going to improve, but you could have made a great case for the opposite. Now, we're getting clearer and clearer glimpses into what's actually potentially available, and it looks quite substantial. As a result, it sure feels like a quick deal might not be the way to go. The price to pay for a big deal might be a long wait, but that might be the path to maximizing gains. One question in my mind is: who might be in the White House if it gets to a strike situation. I know Clinton appointed a PEB for AMR, but he did it after 38 minutes, not by telegraphing intentions ahead. This made the threat way more credible, and put a lot more pressure on the company. Unfortunately, I don't think it matters who is in the White House if/when we ever get to a strike. No president will allow us to strike, more so now, after consolidation. And, being the cynic that I am, it is possible Clinton told AMR's CEO not to worry, I won't let it go to far...He appeared Labor friendly, and out of view of public eyes, he was pro-business too. Most of our politicians are bought and paid for by big business. There isn't enough PAC dollars in the World to by the kind of clout required to pull off a full blown strike again. Although the PAC does do a lot of good, and we need them, we just don't have the influence it takes to buy a President. E |
Originally Posted by Doug Masters
(Post 1637717)
Thanks Roadkill and Denny for the hotel info.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1637519)
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Well, last month I had a 72 hour reserve guarantee and I'm getting paid for 167 hours.......:D Oh, and I added 8 payback days to the bank. I now have 16. Even though I'm reeeaallly junior in category, I would have been able to hold a regular line the last few months. My current plan is to bid a regular line in July or August and then drop all the trips. Pre-month our coverage always looks good. Then I'll either take a summer month off or greenslip on a regular line... Denny |
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