Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1637595)

I have not given up on Donatelli just yet.
He's been very conservative so far but he might have it in him to say enough is enough.

The Delta pilots have facilitated billions of dollars in corporate profit through our cooperation and collaboration with everything management wished to accomplish over the last few years. Its time for a bit of return on our investment. It's past time. Fair is fair. 4.8.3.3 is not going to cut it.

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1637745)

Donatelli is at the Red Sox game with Richard tonight. That says it all.

The very day management ignores the $15 billion in concessions (and counting) the Delta pilot have made over the past decade.

If they have $2 billion for a stock buy back, they have enough money to snap up our pay to the May 2004 Delta pilot hourly rates.

Or are the pilot concessions taken in chapter 11 still necessary?

We can only hope that our leader will make a strong statement on behalf of the Delta pilots saying our hourly rates of pay are FAR below what they were over a decade ago and it is long past time to share in the success we created.

No party even comes close to the billions the Delta pilots have contributed and we will not be left behind.

Silence is consent.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1637698)

While it's entirely possible that the company and union are currently coming to some sort of understanding on a small deal (entirely speculative, as I have no idea), I'm starting to think the same way.

I voted for C2012, mainly because I perceived it to be an insurance contract against an uncertain economy. I hoped, and I suspected the economy was going to improve, but you could have made a great case for the opposite.

Now, we're getting clearer and clearer glimpses into what's actually potentially available, and it looks quite substantial. As a result, it sure feels like a quick deal might not be the way to go. The price to pay for a big deal might be a long wait, but that might be the path to maximizing gains. One question in my mind is: who might be in the White House if it gets to a strike situation. I know Clinton appointed a PEB for AMR, but he did it after 38 minutes, not by telegraphing intentions ahead. This made the threat way more credible, and put a lot more pressure on the company.

Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1637726)

Unfortunately, I don't think it matters who is in the White House if/when we ever get to a strike. No president will allow us to strike, more so now, after consolidation. And, being the cynic that I am, it is possible Clinton told AMR's CEO not to worry, I won't let it go to far...He appeared Labor friendly, and out of view of public eyes, he was pro-business too. Most of our politicians are bought and paid for by big business. There isn't enough PAC dollars in the World to by the kind of clout required to pull off a full blown strike again.

Although the PAC does do a lot of good, and we need them, we just don't have the influence it takes to buy a President.

E

Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1637742)

If reserve worked so good for you, why will you bid a regular line in July or August? I'm thinking with the 100/28 FAR 117 limitation, reserve is the best way to GS.

Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1637409)

Moved up about 12 numbers on 330B, could have held M88A in NYC with about 19 below if I wanted, about 200 from 73NA and 32 from 320A. Too bad I don't live there abouts. Like driving to work too much :cool:

I did just get a 7 day GS and started Rolling Thunder which is even better :D

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1637643)

...no results whatsoever. Wasn't an agreement forthcoming this time last month?

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1637745)

Donatelli is at the Red Sox game with Richard tonight. That says it all.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1637776)

Rather than have the days put in the vacation bank and only get paid 2 more weeks of vacation next year ( worth 45:30), I'd rather use them to drop trips, get paid for them (72:00, two six day trips), and take a summer month off or possibly green slip on a regular line with the month free...

Let's see, use 12 day drop two 36 hour 6 day trips. 72:00 + 3 from the bank to reach GS trigger + 70:00 for one 6 day/35 hour GS + 70:00 for the 2nd 6 day/35 hour GS = a possible 215 hour month for flying 12 days....:eek:

Granted that's a pie in the sky scenario but, if nothing else, I get a month during the summer off!:) I think it's a much better use of PB days.

Denny

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 1637811)

Denny, if you can roll that, you are King Kong! Promise you'll report back to us lesser ones the results so we can all share in your victory.