Well, you sort if proved that there is a difference. Regardless of whether APA asked for intervention, the message was that the pilots struck, the President pulled them back, but it can happen again if you don't negotiate... So negotiate.

Different animal than having a guy promise the nation (and management), that you won't be able to strike.

In terms of leverage with revenue, one version has headlines that say you struck, but prez is delaying the inevitable, the other version has "Prez Intervenes, no Strike". One version would let people book tickets with a degree of confidence, the other wouldn't.

Still, I agree with you guys that this isn't a black-or-white proposition (no pun intended).

Today's thought of the day...if you can't carry your own bag up a flight of stairs its probably time to hang up the FA career.

Nothing.

It says a Rep was not going to the game and there was an open ticket that nobody was going to use. Shame not to have anyone miss a Red Socks game. Nothing planned, no big deal.

This is not an argument that I would use to justify how much we are compensated. If you want the NMB to buy off on the argument during the good times, you can bet when airline profits are down, the opposite will be used "the pilots just aren't generating the numbers for the company."

Disclaimer.... I in no way think we are compensated as much as we should be, just that I could see this being used against when things aren't as rosy.

I'm pretty sure they have done this about once or twice a decade for the last 40 years or so.

Can you pick up a GS on an APD day?

All PD wants is to draw blood. He doesn't care if it is fruitful or not. His posts are QED of that desire.

That's the way its always been Ron.
Management has been using the "bad times" argument against us ever since C2K. They used the threat of bankruptcy to get Letter 46 and then actual bankruptcy to slash our pay and benefits roughly in half.

Turnabout is fair play. They are making enormous profits right now. A big chunk of those profits are directly attributable to them no longer having to fund Delta pilot pensions. We need to see some of that money now that we've brought this company back from the brink with our huge sacrifices.
No other employee group has put in so much and don't even get me started on the executives. From the bonuses to the bankruptcy-proof SERP pensions, those guys have MADE MONEY through all the "hard times".

Its time to pay the pilots.

ps-
I hope Donatelli bought RA a beer at Fenway. And then I hope he warned him what was coming if the pilots don't get to share in this torrent of cash we are generating for his company.

No. You can do it on a PD but not an APD.

Really??? Do tell.

I doubt seriously that anybody will disagree that we will be looking for a lot more money when the openers are exchanged next year. And I don't think management is "ignoring" those concessions. I think they are well aware of them and are enjoying those fruits.

In one context, I agree with you: Next contract, we will be better paid. That's all that matters.