Yes, DTW is a MUCH better commute. SLC is just horrible - stay away. ;):cool::D

I've never done the DTW commute, but LAX to SLC really isn't bad. At the rate things are going, though, if you can't hold LAX you won't hold SLC for awhile at least. SLC has recently become more senior than LAX.

Whoa... that's gotta be L O U D. Should be interesting to watch in the summer as the temps creep up and the T-storms brew. Perfect plane for the East Coast to FL markets though. I guess I'm surprised they'd fly it at all on the near transcons. It seems like a better fit on the ATL to FL markets where there are still a lot of '57's.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...941/2367351/M/

I don't know about you guys, but Fifi's daughter is looking HOT.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...941/2367351/M/

If we call in sick for a 6 day trip, (42 hours) call in well on day 4 (12 hours on day 5 and 6) and then pick up a 12 day trip (72 hours) on day 5 of sick call from a swap with friend or the pot, is the pay 42 (original trip)plus 72 (picked up trip) minus the 2 days of the sick call repaid to sick bank? The 42 hour trip has 11 hours of flying on the last 2 days, but 6 hours of credit also, so not sure how that works.

Consider something in North County San Diego. The company has made it very clear in the past they did not consider SD proper within 2 hours for short call reserve callouts.

Yes, you appear to be missing something. You don't appear to be factoring in the flight time. SLC - SAN on the Jump-seat is not that bad at about 1 1/2 hours block. SAN- DTW can be 4 plus hours, sometimes on the 737 jumpseat-ouchh!!! :eek:

Although you can sometimes get a seat, it would be prudent to plan on riding up front the majority of the time. I did SAN to SLC from 2005-2007 when it was mostly RJs and it wasn't too bad back then. Now there is a lot more mainline service, ie, booked J/S. Southwest is also an option - although you will go through LAS or PHX.

Another plus for SLC is that you have the option of SNA - not so with DTW.

I have commuted SAN to ATL which is similar in block to DTW, and probably easier due to more flights, and SOCAL to SLC. I personally think you would be making a big, big, mistake by trying to commute from SAN to DTW vice SAN to SLC. Either way you should be back in LAX pretty quickly.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Scoop

Sailing,

True, but it is pretty much a non factor. We do not have snow storms, ice-storms, thundershowers etc in LAX which can cause a large number of IROPS. We rarely have low ceilings and visibility although we occasionally get some fog.

Not sure if I am atypical but in 14 plus years of sitting reserve on and off from SAN on the 727/757,737 I have received exactly 1 call saying we need you here as soon as possible. Next nearest report was 3 hours. In 14 years two call-outs with less than 4 hours.

I was just off probation as an FE on the 727 and reported in 1+40. The FO showed up after about 2+30. At 3 hours the CAPT called and said "I am stuck in traffic - I should be there in about an hour." :D

Bottom line - the call to get your butt to the airport ASAP may come at any time, but it is very, very rare at LAX on the 737. And it happens so rarely I would just plan on short term parking with the two minute walk via KCM to sign in as a back-up. Its expensive but I have never had to do it.


Scoop - That being said, I also recommend North County. :)

Alaska has your back with added capacity as well :eek:

http://splash.alaskasworld.com/News/..._slc_story.gif

Boog, you have some varying numbers there, but this is how it is supposed to work. You call in sick for your 42 hour 6-day. You would have one SICK entry on your time card for the full 42 hours. You call in well effective for day 5 of that trip. There should then be two entries on your time card, one for the amount of sick time used while you're actually sick and a second entry for the amount of sick time used after you called in well. If days 5 and 6 of your trip have a total of 11 hours of block and there is 6 hours of credit for the trip (always applied at the end of the last duty period) then your two time card entries would be 25 hours and 17 hours.

If you then picked up a 12 -day trip worth 72 hours that touched the footprint of the original rotation, 17 hours would be used to pay back your sick leave hours used after you called in well and the remaining 55 hours would be paid out to you. This would give you 72 hours of flight pay plus 25 hours of sick pay for a total of 97 hours.

Another example would be calling in sick for a 4-day worth 21 hours (exactly 5:15 block each day). You call in well effective for day 3. 10:30 sick time used while sick and 10:30 sick time used while well. On day 4 you w/s and fly a 2-day trip worth 10:30. The end result would give you 10:30 flight pay and 10:30 sick pay for a total of 21 hours.