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FmrFreightDog 01-06-2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1553498)
He wants Cabotage, here it comes.

What the writer fails to admit is, the reason the US Legacy service has been in a race to the bottom for the past 20 years is, guys like HIM don't want to pay for better service. He also fails to mention that the number one expense for any airline operating large jets is, FUEL. Look at what a gallon of Jet A costs today, vs. 20+ years ago, yet his ticket price is nearly identical to what it was 20 years ago.

Is there ANYTHING else in our economy that you can buy for the same price you paid 20 years ago? :rolleyes:

He does mention, several times, that allowing foreign carriers to fly our domestic routes would lead to "...better service, at lower ticket prices."

So after 20 years of losing BILLIONS of dollars, and every major legacy going bankrupt, the legacies have -finally- figured out how to make money, he wants to let foreigners fly the US Domestic market, so he can keep paying $200 for a ticket to the west coast.

He wants it all, he wants it now, but he doesn't want to PAY for it.:rolleyes:

I think we should allow foreigners (in China and India) to write for USA Today! We could get a better newspaper, for less, not that I've ever paid for a USA Today in the first place! :D

I would love to see a strongly worded response from ALPA national saying essentially what you just said.

sailingfun 01-06-2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by ilinipilot (Post 1553604)
I also heard from a very good source that we are asking for door pay and an increase in ADG. Since I heard this I think its important for every pilot to back ALPA on this one. DO NOT acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior and then ask for your FAR 117 mandated rest. That is how we can get some much needed leverage back

You heard correctly on what we are asking for.

Timbo 01-06-2014 05:47 PM

Ohhhh Jamis!

War damn Eagle!

newKnow 01-06-2014 05:50 PM

Why do Heisman Trophy winners play so poorly in National Championship games?

georgetg 01-06-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1553584)
Yes D-ALPA does. Read the Chairman's letter that was sent today.

It was a fairly strongly worded letter.
I thought the chairman struck just the right balance of stick and carrot...

Every day that goes on shows more and more how absurd the company's negotiating position of "117 is staffing neutral" is...

I wonder what it will take for them to fold.

Cheers
George

DeadHead 01-06-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1553498)
He wants Cabotage, here it comes.

What the writer fails to admit is, the reason the US Legacy service has been in a race to the bottom for the past 20 years is, guys like HIM don't want to pay for better service. He also fails to mention that the number one expense for any airline operating large jets is, FUEL. Look at what a gallon of Jet A costs today, vs. 20+ years ago, yet his ticket price is nearly identical to what it was 20 years ago.

Is there ANYTHING else in our economy that you can buy for the same price you paid 20 years ago?

He does mention, several times, that allowing foreign carriers to fly our domestic routes would lead to "...better service, at lower ticket prices."

So after 20 years of losing BILLIONS of dollars, and every major legacy going bankrupt, the legacies have -finally- figured out how to make money, he wants to let foreigners fly the US Domestic market, so he can keep paying $200 for a ticket to the west coast.

He wants it all, he wants it now, but he doesn't want to PAY for it.:rolleyes:

I think we should allow foreigners (in China and India) to write for USA Today! We could get a better newspaper, for less, not that I've ever paid for a USA Today in the first place! :D

Spot on Timbo.

The sense of entitlement in our society never ceases to amaze me. :rolleyes:

I'm glad our industry is finally starting to get away with the price-the-competition-into-bankruptcy mentality that has hurt this industry so much over the past 10 years.

RetiredFTS 01-06-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1553607)
You heard correctly on what we are asking for.


What is the company asking for?

80ktsClamp 01-06-2014 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1553611)
Why do Heisman Trophy winners play so poorly in National Championship games?

That drive he finally started looking like it. Agh this game is painful so far!

Timbo 01-06-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1553611)
Why do Heisman Trophy winners play so poorly in National Championship games?

Well I think they are just too distracted by all the publicity between the award day and the final big game, to focus on the job at hand. AND today is Winston's 20th birthday too...so he may have partied late last night with his family?

That and the "Over-dog" thing, where the over-dogs slack off and the underdogs work harder during the Christmas break. You saw how many underdogs won the bowl games this year. Ask Nick. :rolleyes:

GunshipGuy 01-06-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1553587)
These are guys YS'ing on X days not on their on-call days. I get throwing one in when on call, but doing them on your x days is working for free unless you are over the reserve cap. There are reasons for doing them on an X day, but not very many and they are almost always for free.

Sounds like a future captain who will make his pre departure PA standing in the cabin to describe the 45 min flight to the pax, then make a climb out PA, a cruise PA, an arrival PA, most of which end in "welcome aboard." Then shut down the remaining engine as he makes final brake application with his right hand on the fuel switch before the FO can get to it just to save that extra .002 sec of fuel. :rolleyes:


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