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sailingfun 01-07-2014 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1553674)
I don't understand why you didn't get the trip. It's my understanding that out of base white slips go out only if the trip is inside of 12 hours and only if no reserve has a YS in or a regular pilot has a WS in for it.

From what I was told, basically the only people the out of base white slips beat out are short call pilots.

I tried to out of base white slip a few months this year and found out that they weren't nearly as easy to get as I thought they would be.


OBWS's are awarded anytime in the manual coverage process. That is anytime after the 7 am window the day prior. In the coverage ladder they fall after in base reserves but before any premium flying.

Herkflyr 01-07-2014 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1553642)
Let's bear in mind that the PWA does not provide for the use of an MEL that gives any relief on the required pilot rest seat or facility. If the 777 condo is inop, if the curtain on the 7ER is missing, etc., the flight will not operate in compliance with the PWA.

ABSOLUTELY. Flight Ops may have put out another "change the contract via memo...memo" but just because the FARs allow for MEL relief for crew rest facilities doesn't mean that our contract does.

DAL has no more power to allow for MEL relief not permitted by our contractual language than they had the ability to schedule 16 hour duty days under the old FAR 121 language--the FARs permitted it, but our contract never did.

For that matter the company has no more right to amend our reserve rules or try to ramrod MEL relief for crew rest facilities via memo than they have the right to "adjust" our pay scales via memo.

Check Essential 01-07-2014 05:46 AM

The rich and famous are costly for Delta.

BBC News - Jennifer Lauren air rage case heard in pub courthouse

p3flteng 01-07-2014 06:10 AM

I hope they charge her for the cost of the divert and Delta gets the money back,....about time some of these ridiculous fools were taught a lesson.

flyallnite 01-07-2014 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1553787)


I'm always amazed at how people with money assume that now they also have class. They way they treat our crews sometimes... I hope they throw the book at this nut job. People with that much money and that little sense should spend their money staying out of public places.

scambo1 01-07-2014 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 1553800)
I hope they charge her for the cost of the divert and Delta gets the money back,....about time some of these ridiculous fools were taught a lesson.

I'll add one...

Charge her the full cost of the divert, PLUS compensate each passenger inconvenienced with a nice dinner and a movie (approx. 150 euro each.) Find out if any pax missed a connection/meeting and compensate for that too.

NERD 01-07-2014 06:40 AM

My guess is a change to our PWA to fit the new FARs with nothing in return. Cost neutral is their addiction we have enabled them for years. Wouldn't surprise me if they proposed to change our PWA to fit their needs with a 1% reduction in DC money and another cut of our profit sharing to pay for all the money it cost them to bother to negotiate.



Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1553621)
What is the company asking for?


jiminmem 01-07-2014 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1553787)

I got to laugh at the fact its being held in a pub. In Ireland of all places.

Widget Idjet 01-07-2014 07:02 AM

Link to a King Air 200 crash video that brought back memories of the B-52 knife edge crash a few years ago.

LiveLeak.com - Plane crashes into dragstrip at Akureyri, Iceland August 5 2013

gloopy 01-07-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1553607)
You heard correctly on what we are asking for.

OK great, but what are we asking for WRT long call reserve leash times? Cause 2 hours ain't gonna work. As it stands now LC is 19 hours, plus we still have the contractual 3 hours prior acknowledgement obligation and nothing more. Assuming we agree to provide relief for that, what will the LC leash end up being? What will the earliest SC a pilot can get on day one end up being after all this? Will we have any "mandatory schedule checks" on a day off like before? Until all that is fixed, there should be no piggy bank approach for a company wide payoff especially when its the reserve pilots that are doing all the work on the front lines with this mess.


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