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TeddyKGB 01-06-2014 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1553497)
If it was a YS to fly on X days then there are very few scenarios at the front of the month that make much sense. About the only one I can think of is if they had a mother-in-law visit and needed an excuse for the wife as to why they were headed to work.

I did a YS on a day off a few months ago. Here is why. There was a nice 4 day CDG trip and had I not YS it I would have been put on SC coming off of my days off. Instead of commuting in on the 7th to sit SC on the 8th, I commuted in on the 7th and flew to Paris that night. Another time I YS a trip on a day off because it prevented me from getting a very crappy trip that was sitting in open time that I would have otherwise been assigned. Maybe he is trying to fill up to get the end of the month off? Many other reasons I could fathom.

TeddyKGB 01-06-2014 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaA320 (Post 1553504)
There's lots of valid reasons to ys on reserve. If you're a commuter and don't want to have to sit short call in a hotel or crash pad. I ys if I know I'm going to get a trip to pick the better one out of opentime, to put yourself over guarantee, or sometimes you can get an extra day off by ys a 3 day or a 4 day when you have 4 or 5 days availability. You gotta make the best out of reserve and don't understand why people make a big deal out of yellow slipping....

Exactly. Some people don't get it. The guy who missed out on the GSWC prob hasn't sat reserve and is out of touch with it.

block30 01-06-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1553498)
He wants Cabotage, here it comes.

What the writer fails to admit is, the reason the US Legacy service has been in a race to the bottom for the past 20 years is, guys like HIM don't want to pay for better service. He also fails to mention that the number one expense for any airline operating large jets is, FUEL. Look at what a gallon of Jet A costs today, vs. 20+ years ago, yet his ticket price is nearly identical to what it was 20 years ago.

Is there ANYTHING else in our economy that you can buy for the same price you paid 20 years ago? :rolleyes:

He does mention, several times, that allowing foreign carriers to fly our domestic routes would lead to "...better service, at lower ticket prices."

So after 20 years of losing BILLIONS of dollars, and every major legacy going bankrupt, the legacies have -finally- figured out how to make money, he wants to let foreigners fly the US Domestic market, so he can keep paying $200 for a ticket to the west coast.

He wants it all, he wants it now, but he doesn't want to PAY for it.:rolleyes:

I think we should allow foreigners (in China and India) to write for USA Today! We could get a better newspaper, for less, not that I've ever paid for a USA Today in the first place! :D

Exactly. The worlds fastest, safest mode of transportation should be free, dangit!

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newKnow 01-06-2014 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1553498)

So after 20 years of losing BILLIONS of dollars, and every major legacy going bankrupt, the legacies have -finally- figured out how to make money, he wants to let foreigners fly the US Domestic market, so he can keep paying $200 for a ticket to the west coast.

He wants it all, he wants it now, but he doesn't want to PAY for it.:rolleyes:

I think we should allow foreigners (in China and India) to write for USA Today! We could get a better newspaper, for less, not that I've ever paid for a USA Today in the first place! :D


I am still amazed that people I know complain about the price of an airline ticket to places when the ticket costs less than it would cost for them to drive -- fuel expenses alone, it's not even including the price of renting a car! :eek:


Come on people. $350 for a round trip ticket to Miami from Chicago is pretty cheap.

Timbo 01-06-2014 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1553509)
Exactly. The worlds fastest, safest mode of transportation should be free, dangit!

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I call it the "iPhone, Free App" syndrome...

I should get everything I want, right NOW, and for FREE! :rolleyes:

bluejuice71 01-06-2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1553442)
Primary Vacation bids are closing tomorrow. Don't FTB.

No, they close Wednesday night.

Justdoinmyjob 01-06-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1553507)
Exactly. Some people don't get it. The guy who missed out on the GSWC prob hasn't sat reserve and is out of touch with it.

Wrong on both accounts. But thanks for trying!:p

80ktsClamp 01-06-2014 03:22 PM

BRING IT ON, FTB!

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Just to remind you that this happened:

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Go Noles!!

8 Cherry Garcia 01-06-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1553356)
Cherry;

You seem like a union guy, does any of this 117 wrangling make a stronger case for re-upgrading or adding more class 1 rest facilities to various fleets?

I have no idea what the bean counter equation is for knocking out a condo. Obviously they get a few more Biz seats out of it, even minus the new "rest" seat.

The cynical me says that the spreadsheet for potential revenue on those added seats is a mathmatical "certainty", while cancelling a flight because of degraded rest facility is only a "soft theoretical" possibility.

You and I know that all it takes is one or two diverts or canx due to FDP to zero out whatever possible revenue they might have gotten out of those seats.

If you look at the tables, you essentially lose an hour of FDP for going down one Class of facility. Even if you have to MEL whatever you have, you probably can go...but it gets tighter on the time. (Check those snaps and curtains!)

There's a new APB that outlines all the various Rest Facilities by tail number...and the backup plan (ie what biz class seat if the condo is out).

A very interesting note 1 is that on some planes, the dedicated Flight Attendant Rest facility has been approved by the FAA to act as a Class 2...and can be used to maintain operation integrity, with VP approval. Would love to see that scenario play out.

I think the ship has sailed on the facilities we lost (330), and that sucks....but a strong case could be made for keeping what we got.

I know I have a hard time sleeping on the 767 and the 757 is down right ridiculous.

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Dirtdiver 01-06-2014 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1553472)
Got one better, Had a GSWC in on Friday night in JFK that would have gotten me home a day earlier and it went instead to a reserve who put in a yellow slip.

No way you could have known that trip would have been yours GSWC unless the scheduler told you.

GSWC are so far down the assignment tree, they're very rare. Take a look at your contract before you make such bold statements


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