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Alan Shore 07-01-2014 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1676010)
Reps are who we elect to represent us. Reps don't develop costing models and publish them. That's done by MEC administrators and ALPA national. We don't share cockpits or careers with them. So no, that's not who we're talking about here.

But our reps have full access to that data, and they agree with the conclusions being published by ALPA.


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1676010)
I don't believe people. I believe data. We don't get to see that data.

My mistake then, as you seem quite willing and ready to believe management's every sound bite on the subject.

Alan Shore 07-01-2014 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1676027)
When management added it all up, they described our contract as cost neutral and further stated that those cost savings would allow for funding initiatives for the benefit of other employee groups.

And they presented no data, yet you seem quite willing to believe them. :confused:

ManFlex 07-01-2014 11:31 PM

Very nice. And I believe due to VX's order deferrals, Spirit will be the USA launch customer for the NEO.

forgot to bid 07-02-2014 01:27 AM

I thought narrow body airliners were supposed to have engines that were flat on the bottom and pointed up? Those are big and round.

Wingnutdal 07-02-2014 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1676042)
He absolutely said it, as did slowplay and the rest. And they were correct. Sustained corporate profits are our best leverage. Our union is just choosing not to use that leverage in deference to the strategy of being a corporate partner. That's our union's strategy. Guess we'll see how it plays out.

Carl

Prove it Carl. You always come on here and ask for proof. You put two quotes in that post, show where those exact quotes are. Show where he said that. He certainly didn't say everything is a trade off. He said our contract is riddled with them. You misquoted him. On purpose. He never said that, you made it up.

scambo1 07-02-2014 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1676136)
I thought narrow body airliners were supposed to have engines that were flat on the bottom and pointed up? Those are big and round.

It's like that French thing shares bikini tops with a 757.

orvil 07-02-2014 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1676047)
You shouldn't seek contractual benefit answers on this forum, particularly as it pertains to retiree benefits. Tom has been retired a while, and his benefits are different than those who retire today.

There is no post-Medicare coverage for pilots retiring today.

Of course we should. This an open forum and everyone knows everything. No one makes a mistake. Everyone has my best interests at heart.

Pineapple Guy 07-02-2014 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1676154)
Of course we should. This an open forum and everyone knows everything. No one makes a mistake. Everyone has my best interests at heart.

Good point. :D

badflaps 07-02-2014 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1676074)
All I want is a few PS1's for the family, for a vacation pass, so we can actually count on getting there! :rolleyes:

I doubt I'd pay $500 to ride on passes. I hate going to the airport on my days off already, for only $50/yr.

Since the pass program is almost a non benefit at this point, eventually the company will have to come out with a replacement program, prolly discounted PS. (Or they could just pay the cash they tell you the benefit is worth.):D

LivingTheDream 07-02-2014 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1675540)
I GU-AR-AN-Tee you that the most senior airplane at DAL would be the 737. Guaranteed.

I am hoping beyond hope that I will make it out of this joint before I am kicked back to that torture chamber. I am guessing that any one 6' or greater feels similarly... I GU-AR-AN-Tee you. :p


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