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Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1676793)
Another good guy gone, Pat Milligan, died in a climbing accident, PAN member.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1676715)
You're saying "the NDA" and I take you literally to mean a singular NDA. Although I'm certainly not an expert on Delta's laws of incorporation and board rules, I think you're making a wrong assumption. An actual board member must sign a member NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) which prohibits him/her from discussing anything that is learned during board meetings unless it's with another board member. The only way the Pilot Director could do what you say above is if the MEC had also executed board member NDA's. Not saying that's impossible, but I can't imagine Delta's board doing that. The Pilot Director has all the privileges of the other board members, but also same responsibilities to keep quiet. He would only be able to discuss board activities in the most general of terms with the MEC.
If I'm wrong on this and MEC members have active corporate board member NDA's, I'd like to be set straight. Carl I did not know that there were separate levels of NDA, but I don't see how that is relevant. The pilot director has a responsibility to report the sort of criminal behavior that you describe, or he is guilty of complicity. Wasn't that your original assertion? That he would somehow have his hands tied, and be helpless to report rascal behavior to the MEC? I have witnessed about half a dozen briefings from the pilot director (I signed an NDA in 2012), and the contents of those briefings makes me believe that your scenario is far-fetched at best. |
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1676715)
You're saying "the NDA" and I take you literally to mean a singular NDA. Although I'm certainly not an expert on Delta's laws of incorporation and board rules, I think you're making a wrong assumption. An actual board member must sign a member NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) which prohibits him/her from discussing anything that is learned during board meetings unless it's with another board member. The only way the Pilot Director could do what you say above is if the MEC had also executed board member NDA's. Not saying that's impossible, but I can't imagine Delta's board doing that. The Pilot Director has all the privileges of the other board members, but also same responsibilities to keep quiet. He would only be able to discuss board activities in the most general of terms with the MEC.
If I'm wrong on this and MEC members have active corporate board member NDA's, I'd like to be set straight. Carl There are no NDAs for BOD members. There's a little entity called the SEC, perhaps you've heard of it, and it has enough rules with respect to this issue. As for our Pilot Director, his duties/responsibilities are spelled out in the PWA, which says, among other things, "the Pilot Member shall be bound by the confidentiality obligations of the members of the Delta Board with respect to all discussions, deliberations and decisions of the Delta Board and any committees thereof in accordance with the policies of the Delta Board applicable to all members of the Delta Board, provided that, the Pilot Member may from time to time, with the knowledge of the Chairman of the Delta Board or Chief Executive Officer of Delta, exercise his reasonable discretion to provide such information to the Delta MEC, its officers, relevant committees, and advisors who have executed confidentiality agreements approved by Delta for that purpose." |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1676980)
Carl, guess what? You're wrong....again.
There are no NDAs for BOD members. There's a little entity called the SEC, perhaps you've heard of it, and it has enough rules with respect to this issue. As for our Pilot Director, his duties/responsibilities are spelled out in the PWA, which says, among other things, "the Pilot Member shall be bound by the confidentiality obligations of the members of the Delta Board with respect to all discussions, deliberations and decisions of the Delta Board and any committees thereof in accordance with the policies of the Delta Board applicable to all members of the Delta Board, provided that, the Pilot Member may from time to time, with the knowledge of the Chairman of the Delta Board or Chief Executive Officer of Delta, exercise his reasonable discretion to provide such information to the Delta MEC, its officers, relevant committees, and advisors who have executed confidentiality agreements approved by Delta for that purpose." This would seem to be the equivalence of the glove slap before the duel. (Well, one can hope.) |
The United MEC has gone hardcore in its efforts to take over ALPA, and in the process, regional flying. I wonder if Delta management is seeing this, and what their response is going to be?
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