I have had this discussion with multiple ppl, and yes, there are items that may require him by law to not divulge. It goes with the responsibilities any person has when they sit on board, public or otherwise. It also effects those that live with that person, and I have been a party to both.

That said, our pilot director knows the responsibilities of his job to the MEC and to the Board. I believe his fulfilling his job to both parties without compromising his service to the pilots.

How does Delta management have a horse in that race?

Recall that Moak won when hardly anyone even knew he was running. He did not waste his time on anyone without a vote.

It is a common election year tactic to raise expectations amongst express pilots. Know that United's economic analysis isn't substantially different than anyone else's. At least at the moment, I don't think anyone has done any serious study of small jet scope.

I saw be wary of a greek bearing gifts during presidential election season. (ALPA Pres)

Sorry you were interrupted ... please continue as you were saying about our strategy in the Pacific and how much flying will be done by Delta pilots.

APC Haiku? Or from Yoda did you learn to write?


Small Jet Concession

Many First Officers old men

I forgot the rest

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/g...x?itemid=10769

Hearing MD10 and MD-11

30 years after the original design is a sweet spot for working out the post-certification post production probelems via line test flying and re-engineering via emergency airworthiness directives and service difficulty reports on Douglas aircraft.

Besides, there are plenty of spare parts and the hydraulics that work so poorly on the MD88 are DC-10/MD-11 parts to begin with, so we have instant fleet commonality.

In related news, the Trainer PA facility is being re rigged to produce hydraulic fluid.

If that doesn't pan out then this might be a good idea. What could go wrong?

Airbus: Pilots don't really need windows - seattlepi.com

So we could work from home?

Hey, wait a minute ... I think I know where this is going and I'm to fat to fit in the vertical stab.

I'm certain that the NDA is a Delta authored NDA and is governed by SEC regulations. With regard to an "MEC Confidential", that's something different and not germane to what we're talking about.

Don't disagree.

You might start about 5 pages back if you want the context. The discussion centers on the veracity of claims that C2012 added ~400M per year in value to pilots. I've said that number is to date unproved because neither the company nor the union has shown the math on how that was derived. Others argue that the number had to be accurate because our pilot board member would have cried foul if the company tried to give misleading costing numbers to the union. That's the cliffs version of why we're discussing this.

You're making it sound like the briefings are done together. To my knowledge, the MEC committees and MEC do not get briefed with the Delta board members present who are also getting their briefing. Those briefings happen separately.

And all of that different than the Delta board member NDA governing behavior as a Delta board member.

Carl

Nobody has said differently.

Carl