Wow.

So now we are afraid of seeking pay rate increases because of....

Wait for it......

What Wall Street will think?

Really? I don't see them going "bat****" crazy over executive compensation.

Listen everyone, business is business. The basic laws of supply and demand are swinging towards favoring us. Time to leverage them and not be apologetic about it. Time to stop thinking like a group of abused victims.

The abused thinks that the incident was his or her fault.
Example:Bankruptcy was due to our unsustainable C2K

The abused has an inability to place the responsibility for the incident elsewhere.

The abused fears for their financial life and/or the lives of their children

The abused has an irrational belief that the abuser is omnipresent and omniscient.
Statements like the one above. What will Wall Street think? The NMB will never release us. We will be subjected to a PEB. Delta will never give anything to us because they will need to give to everyone else as well

You could just as well be describing a Moak, O'Malley, or Donatelli letter.

We're all merely pawns and ATM machines for a bloated bureaucracy.

Good post.

Yeah, T seems to fancy himself as business savvy when... well... the reality of it is more like this: ;)

I agree in principle T, but payrates can and should go up. We can couch a lot of it in the things you advocate, which I completely agree with. Throw in some pay raises and I'm in.

Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have do it himself.....

Where would Tina Turner be right now if she'd rolled over and said, "Hit me again, Ike, and put some stank on it!"? Rollin' on the river, that's where she'd be. But she's beyond Thunderdome, because she decided to send a message.

It's probably time we send a message.

Interesting read wrt Alaska:

Note to Alaska Airlines: It's Time to Make a Deal with Delta - Forbes

With relying on mainly increasing the minimum day to 5:30 or 6:00 hours, those on the bottom of the lists will be the ones who get minimal raises.

Pay raises are a must.

But dad, all the other kids got D's and I got a C!

Let's compare ourselves to the Chicago Cubs too if it makes cost neutral feel better.

I agree. That being said, I'd be ok with a somewhat more modest pay raise with some serious soft money improvements.