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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1606409)

Dalad, you are one of my favorite posters on this board, so don't take this personally. You are doing what is allowed under our contract.

OOBWS IMHO:

- Commuting on your time, not the Company's dime
- Deters the Company from adding staffing at the base you might want to bid in to
- Deters the Company from hiring the pilots it needs to staff the network
- Raises the expectation that pilots will DH for less than our current contract (free)
- Raises the expectation that DH is not really duty, or work
- Does take trips out of the system which might be assigned at premium pay
- Is an abrogation of seniority

Should be taken out of our contract. Bid what you want. Want what you bid.

Although Scambo makes a great point above. I'd say "good" if a guy was needing to fill up his GS trigger.

You MAY be right (and I have never flown an OOBWS) but what if the guy in question is a commuter? If a guy lives in MCO and commutes to NYC--and we have many--is it really a bad trend of company "expectation" if he commutes to ATL vice NYC on an OOBWS?

It is not an abrogation of seniority, any more than a junior guy getting a WS before a senior guy getting a GS is an "abrogation." It is in the contract: therefore it is not an abrogation of seniority, other than in a "philosophical" sense.

In fact I think that many of your arguments could well be construed as an argument against commuting, and I know that you did not intend that.

As with all things, if you truly don't like that contractual provision, then let your LEC rep know. If they get enough such inputs it may prompt them to direct the negotiators that way.

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1606424)

Yep, I initially went to NYC as it was the only "pure" 7ER base. I held AMM, TLV, and CAI regularly. Dozing for $. Then the merger and all the domestic flying rolled in. I could go on and on, but I chose to stay in NYC, live in College Park while my youngest daughter finished up at Woodward, and pick up an occasional OOBWS. The 7ER junior flying looks like MD-88 flying while I get to do 4 day four leg transcons that are commutable. Or I bid island turns back to back where I can deviate from DH on the front end, stay in a crashpad, then deviate on the back end on day 2. I get 17+ hours credit for 2 days. Yes, I bid what I want and want what I bid.

Not trying to be insulting, just thought it humors!
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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1605376)

Bruce Pearl is hardly a "great one.":rolleyes:

Five years and Auburn basketball will be sanctioned.

I disagree. I have friends in Knoxville that know the whole story of what happened. Bruce made a mistake. The "sanctionable" breach would have been a slap on the wrist. The problem was that he lied about it, and it blew up (more than likely because the Jim Tressell thingy was going on at the same time). Tennessee would have been smarter to have accepted the sanctions and kept him on. (IMHO) He instilled an energy into the UT basketball program that hadn't been seen before. He is a great recruiter and floor tactician, and the Barn will be a contender in the SEC in short order.

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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1606353)

The OOBWS gurus are starting to get me mad ;(

That's ok. For every one of you there are a bunch of reserve guys thanking us.

OOBWS in my opinion is a set up to implement in home basing. Be careful what you desire and wish for. In Home Basing will require less pilots on the seniority list.

I have heard some noise that SD and gang are experimenting and running calculations with this.

TEN

AE is out ............

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1606424)

I'd support a PWA change that put IBGS on the coverage ladder ahead of OOBWS. It'd be expensive and not sure the Company would want to "sell it" for what we'd be willing to pay to "buy it".

We will have opportunity for substantial gains, where we place the gains is up to the majority. Is this a pilot group priority?

Taking a look at the latest AE and I have a question for a staffing genius. How do we have a 172 FO openings and only 35 Capt openings? Shouldn't they balance?

I do understand that some of them are carry over from previous AEs but a 5 to 1 ratio seems a bit high.