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casual observer 01-16-2014 09:35 AM

Please pardon me for being a cheap, slow witted procrastinator, but is there a way to get all of 2013's monthly schedule and/or rotation information now, without dropping $50 on one of the services?

GogglesPisano 01-16-2014 09:37 AM

Call me old school, but I print out all my rotations at the end of each month. That's my "logbook."

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iaflyer 01-16-2014 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 1560154)
Well, how about at least leaving the monthly schedule and rotation info in the system for a couple of years, so it's there when I get around to doing my taxes.

They do - I can pull up my schedule and rotations from Jan 2011. Is three years old not enough?

Check Essential 01-16-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 1560467)
Please pardon me for being a cheap, slow witted procrastinator, but is there a way to get all of 2013's monthly schedule and/or rotation information now, without dropping $50 on one of the services?

You can get the information out of iCrew but it is a slow, difficult, error prone and extremely tedious task to manually calculate the exact hours you were present in what cities and figure out how much per diem you were paid and how much you were actually eligible for under the IRS guidelines.
Delta does not make this process convenient at all. Many many mouse clicks and lots of time with a calculator to do something a computer can do in nanoseconds.

Flightline and Pro-Diem have developed highly specialized software that is able to run scripts on Delta's mainframe and pull all that data out in just a few seconds and come up with the 3 or 4 critical numbers that we need to file our taxes. Then they sell us our own numbers for $50.

Delta's programmers could obviously do the same thing without too much effort but I guess this falls under the category of "what are you willing to give up for that".

MoonShot 01-16-2014 10:33 AM

APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.

Scoop 01-16-2014 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1560513)
APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.




Moonshot,


Unless I am reading this wrong the first day of your hire month. From the contract:


8. An APD request will be granted if, at the time of processing, the:
30 a. number of reserves available in the category is at least 25% of the number of reserves
31 required (as determined by the reserves required formula under Section 23 W., and as
32 shown in DBMS),
33 Note: For purposes of a rotation that is scheduled to begin in one bid period and end
34 in another, prior to the close of line bidding for the second bid period, a day(s) within
35 such second bid period will be deemed to have sufficient reserve availability,
36 provided that such day(s) does not fall within an APD holiday period as described in
37 Section 23 I. 8. a. Exception.9
38 Exception: An APD request may be denied regardless of the number of reserves
39 available during the period commencing two days before and ending one day after the
40 following:
41 1) New Year’s Day
42 2) Super Bowl Sunday
43 3) Good Friday
8 Section 23 I. 7. Note renamed Note one and Note two (new) added by LOA #13.
9 Section 23 I. 8. a. Note (new) added by LOA #13.
Section 23 - Scheduling
23-21
1 4) Easter
2 5) Memorial Day
3 6) Independence Day
4 7) Labor Day
5 8) Thanksgiving Day
6 9) Christmas Day
7 and
8 b. pilot has not been granted an APD since the first day of the bid period containing the
9 last anniversary of his date of hire, and ...



Scoop

MoonShot 01-16-2014 10:51 AM

Scoop,

Thanks. That's the way I was reading it. I just didn't know if anyone had any practical application of the text in the contract. Far be it for me to misinterpret something in there to my detriment (only happens every other month or so). :)

Elvis90 01-16-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1560513)
APD question.

Does anyone know if the APD resets on your hire date OR hire month? For example: I am debating using my APD for a trip in FEB. My hire date is in March. The only other thing I might use it for is a period of time in early March (before my hire date).

Am I wasting it not using it in FEB, or will I be able to use it in early March and then get another APD after my hire date?

Thanks.

I've used it several times. It resets on your hire date, so it would be a good bet to use it FEB, otherwise you'll lose it in MAR when it resets.

LeineLodge 01-16-2014 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1560525)
Scoop,

Thanks. That's the way I was reading it. I just didn't know if anyone had any practical application of the text in the contract. Far be it for me to misinterpret something in there to my detriment (only happens every other month or so). :)

So in plain English, you get a new APD the first day of your anniversary month. I verified this in JAN. I used mine last year and then on my time card in JAN (my anniversary month) it shows APD available as Y.

Remember if you're dropping a trip as a REG pilot you only need to APD one day of the trip to drop the whole thing. That will leave you available to WS/GS on the other days should you choose to. Remember that an APD is like a vacation day, so if it says APD for a date you can't do anything (which is the point :D )

Purple Drank 01-16-2014 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1560527)
S That will leave you available to WS/GS on the other days should you choose to.

Incorrect. You cannot WS/GS over the entire footprint of the trip you dropped with an APD, even if you only specified one day for the APD.


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