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satchip 08-18-2014 04:00 PM

T, I'm with you. This place is starting to suck again. Maybe this will brighten you day.
How bout some 16th National Championship Underboob?
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Or some Big 10 underboob in honor Council 54?

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And for Buzz and all the guys who waste their Sunday's watching the Chickified NFL theres this.

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Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?

Check Essential 08-18-2014 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1707873)
Can we can the constant bickering and talk about important stuff?

Your post raises an important issue.

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ImTumbleweed 08-18-2014 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1707282)
I respectfully disagree. By stating that the profit sharing for 2014 and 2015 are not yet known, and by adding a footnote to the 10% stating that it is an estimate, they are treating it as a conservative guess as to what may happen.

The reader (me, in this case) was left to draw his own conclusions as to the likelihood of the estimate and the desirability of placing this amount of my compensation at risk. Hopefully, the survey will give me an opportunity to express my views on that subject. If not, I will let my rep know how I feel on the subject.



Agreed. Keep in mind that the document we've been discussing is the Contract History, which showed the history (duh) of our two airline pilot contracts over the past 20 years or so. I recently received the Contract Comparison (I assume we all did) that provides the comparison with our peers.

Alan,

Several pages pack (whew, it's been busy here) I asked you about your thoughts on combining the JV non-compliance into Contract 2015.

You stated they should be separate issues and resolved independently. (Please correct me if I'm wrong about your answer).

We agree on that issue.

My fear is that these items will NOT be resolved as independent issues and the JV non-compliance will be folded into C2015 and dismissed.

I have informed my MEC reps this would be unacceptable. I encourage others to do the same.

Follow up question,

I quoted you above about profit sharing. Your sentence (in bold) concerns me. You claim profit sharing is a "risk" in compensation. Are you encouraging reducing profit sharing in order to increase pay rates when we negotiate Contract 2015?

Just so it's clear, my question is:

Do you support a reduction in company profit sharing in order to gain an hourly pay rate increase when we negotiate Contract 2015?

Thanks for your insights and I'm curious of your thoughts.

index 08-18-2014 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1707872)
What I find ironic is that the company is so supportive and protective of a union (ALPA) when they are so anti-union with the other employees.

A very astute observation.

Alan Shore 08-18-2014 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1707845)
I think you read into it what you wanted to read into it.

No one's ever done that on this forum!! ;)

Carl Spackler 08-18-2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1707774)
First, you never...ever... have the right to bring up executive compensation again, if this is truly your feelings. After all, you could have checked CEO on your application, right?

Second... nevermind... this place is really starting to suck.

Translation: Even I am struggling with trying to defend a "union" that is so clearly compromised and not representing pilot interests.

Tough times indeed for the


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Carl

Alan Shore 08-18-2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed (Post 1707895)
Do you support a reduction in company profit sharing in order to gain an hourly pay rate increase when we negotiate Contract 2015?

Personally, I do not. As with my investment portfolio, I am comfortable with a considerable amount of risk. Unless Delta were to offer us some ridiculous amount of pay in return for what is essentially an unlimited profit sharing plan, e.g., something akin to 12-14% APR on a CD, I believe that we are better off accepting the risk of no profit some day in return for higher returns in profitable years.

But that's just me. Others may be more risk averse and prefer the certainty of a higher fixed pay rate. The trick, though, is to ensure that you're not mistaking the pay that you've bought with your profit sharing for an actual increase in compensation.

Carl Spackler 08-18-2014 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1707788)
Especially if Carl ever puts his money where his big fat mouth is...

...The maturity level is waning on a seemingly hourly basis.

Did you read your first sentence before you wrote the last sentence?

Carl

Purple Drank 08-18-2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1707932)
Did you read your first sentence before you wrote the last sentence?

Carl

Careful, you'll make him cry. :D His whole life revolves around wearing his LCA lanyard, consuming free muffins and kool-aid at LCA meetings, and bloviating at high volume here on APCF.

He's like a clown on fire; kinda funny, kinda sad.

Carl Spackler 08-18-2014 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1707790)

A Tennessee cheerleader is the hacker? :D

Carl


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