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Where did you read that? Good news none the less.
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1708393)
Just read that.... I like it!
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1708430)
Didn't say the certification drive was on a court docket. But there were legal challenges throughout by ALPA. But ALPA was still successfully decertified with Seham leading that battle for UsAir pilots. Also if I remember correctly, Seham won the battle for class status of TWA pilots, then was an expert witness in the trial against ALPA...a case that ALPA lost. Seham also fought a battle for some United pilots against ALPA, and I think ALPA lost that too if memory serves.
Again, my main point is the extreme vitriol for Lee Seham that you get from the ALPA insiders like alfaromeo is so interesting. If he's such an incompetent loser of an attorney, why not just ignore him. Why the extreme vitriol. Carl Understood. Thanks for the answer. I'll have to look those cases up. I previously read the transcripts for the TWA case. I must have missed that he was their representing attorney. I thought it was another firm, but it's been quite awhile since I read the transcripts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708347)
My thought is DPA is a couple people with a personal agenda against ALPA/DALPA that tried to take advantage of the dissatisfaction with the state of the industry at the time.
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708347)
Openers are approaching and DPA to me is a stupid wasteful distraction at this point.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1708393)
Just read that.... I like it!
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
(Post 1708435)
Understood. Thanks for the answer. I'll have to look those cases up. I previously read the transcripts for the TWA case. I must have missed that he was their representing attorney. I thought it was another firm, but it's been quite awhile since I read the transcripts.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1708403)
Far be it from the company to change their plans, right?
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708413)
I disagree that we have accepted bankruptcy rates as a reset.
I look at it from the standpoint of the math required for restoration of our buying power and what numerous MEC and committee guys have said about what kind of increases would be "reasonable" or not. It's not mathematically possible to restore a 42% cut, which requires a 73% increase to restore on day one, in a length of time that would benefit the majority of our pilots on the seniority list today with increases every few years like 4-8.5-3-3. When DALPA officials argue against the reasonableness of, for example, the 50% increase it would currently take to restore the buying power of our pay rates, then they are arguing against restoration as our objective... ipso facto they have accepted bankruptcy as a reset. Okay, that was my best shot. I'm certain I didn't change your mind but it was at least worth a try. :)
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708413)
I know what Moak said but I think he was playing to the crowd he was speaking to.
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708413)
Anyways it's up to us what we want and will accept.
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708413)
I think it was you who suggested bringing back the pro con paper.
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 1708413)
I'd love to see that. I agree that there's too much of a sell job when we get a TA. A pro con would seem to give the negotiators a tool as well. The company would know it's all out there in black and white and bullet format for a smart pilot group to see.
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