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TeddyKGB 08-19-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1708609)
Who said anything about doubling our pay?

No one did. I"m just saying that when when top Mgmt gets big raises it hardly puts a dent into corporate profits. Give 12,000 pilots big raises and it puts a huge dent into the profits.

alfaromeo 08-19-2014 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1708505)
For me to get an accurate report of all the legal issues between Seham and ALPA, I'd have to call Seham and I don't want to spend 500 an hour for that. So let's stipulate for the sake of argument that the only legal proceedings that there have ever been between Seham and ALPA were ones where ALPA trounced him into the ground. Fine. Then why do you ALPA-oids go so insane whenever his name is mentioned? It was the very first thing you guys jumped on as soon as DPA became public. Why? Why do you fight so hard against this incompetent boob of a lawyer?

Carl

It is always hilarious when you have an emotion filled, fact free post and then complain that I am being emotional.

Look, this attorney seems to have only one skill; using propaganda to lure dissatisfied pilots into leaving their union. After that, his representation has been disastrous for everyone he represents. Under this man:

USAPA had the highest dues rate in the industry
They wasted millions on pointless lawsuits
They never negotiated a single benefit for pilots
They conducted an illegal "safety" slowdown that lead them to federal court where they still labor under an injunction
They wasted additional millions on a phony "pension investigation" which ended up in the Mr. Obvious conclusion that if a pension is out of money, the PBGC will take it over
They sued their own pilots

In short, he was great at luring pilots away from ALPA and then took millions of dollars for himself and gave his pilots a giant bucket of spit in return. And you really wonder why I don't want this guy around? It is amazing how you have your pay and benefits go up 60+% in 6 years and DALPA is a giant failure. The attorney produces a fat goose egg in the same time and you are willing to stake your career on him. Look back at what a federal judge wrote about his conduct in the DFR case. It is pure insanity that anyone would trust this guy with anything.

My point is that this phony "website hacking" is just another in an endless scheme of schemes that are designed solely to separate pilots from their money. My hope is that anyone who reads this will never send a single penny of their money to this pointless cause. I think the core 50 DPA people will never change. All they have is hatred now and they will wallow in it until they die. For the rest, please save your money.

TeddyKGB 08-19-2014 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
It is always hilarious when you have an emotion filled, fact free post and then complain that I am being emotional.

Look, this attorney seems to have only one skill; using propaganda to lure dissatisfied pilots into leaving their union. After that, his representation has been disastrous for everyone he represents. Under this man:

USAPA had the highest dues rate in the industry
They wasted millions on pointless lawsuits
They never negotiated a single benefit for pilots
They conducted an illegal "safety" slowdown that lead them to federal court where they still labor under an injunction
They wasted additional millions on a phony "pension investigation" which ended up in the Mr. Obvious conclusion that if a pension is out of money, the PBGC will take it over
They sued their own pilots

In short, he was great at luring pilots away from ALPA and then took millions of dollars for himself and gave his pilots a giant bucket of spit in return. And you really wonder why I don't want this guy around? It is amazing how you have your pay and benefits go up 60+% in 6 years and DALPA is a giant failure. The attorney produces a fat goose egg in the same time and you are willing to stake your career on him. Look back at what a federal judge wrote about his conduct in the DFR case. It is pure insanity that anyone would trust this guy with anything.

My point is that this phony "website hacking" is just another in an endless scheme of schemes that are designed solely to separate pilots from their money. My hope is that anyone who reads this will never send a single penny of their money to this pointless cause. I think the core 50 DPA people will never change. All they have is hatred now and they will wallow in it until they die. For the rest, please save your money.

Carl was prob the guy who donated $500 yesterday.

forgot to bid 08-19-2014 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
Under this man:

USAPA had the highest dues rate in the industry
They wasted millions on pointless lawsuits
They never negotiated a single benefit for pilots
They conducted an illegal "safety" slowdown that lead them to federal court where they still labor under an injunction
They wasted additional millions on a phony "pension investigation" which ended up in the Mr. Obvious conclusion that if a pension is out of money, the PBGC will take it over
They sued their own pilots
Abrogated an arbitration.

And like it or not, the bold that I added because making contract improvements was not their goal.

forgot to bid 08-19-2014 07:21 PM

Facebook:

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...70&oe=5481E44B

I spent a while trying to figure out how this was tied to the annoy your FO thread.

Delta could put the same ad out, minus the "all" in wide body fleet. or maybe just minus the wide body fleet part. :D

TheManager 08-19-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
My point is that this phony "website hacking" is just another in an endless scheme of schemes that are designed solely to separate pilots from their money. My hope is that anyone who reads this will never send a single penny of their money to this pointless cause. I think the core 50 DPA people will never change. All they have is hatred now and they will wallow in it until they die. For the rest, please save your money.


Alfa,

Can you affirmatively state then, on the record here, that no one currently associated with Dalpa or formerly associated with Dalpa, had anything to do with the "hacking?"

I honestly believe that DPA is done if they unmask the individual and it is a singular person not associated with ALPA that was truly just misbehaving.

On the other hand, if it turns out that any of the misdirection had Dalpa ties, well then ALPA just breathed more life into the waning DPA movement.

You are very well connected in the MEC, and in a position to know. So, care to make that confirmation?

TenYearsGone 08-19-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1708644)
Facebook:

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...70&oe=5481E44B

I spent a while trying to figure out how this was tied to the annoy your FO thread.

Delta could put the same ad out, minus the "all" in wide body fleet. or maybe just minus the wide body fleet part. :D


You know that Skipper is pulling the "wool"!:D

TEN

Carl Spackler 08-19-2014 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
It is always hilarious when you have an emotion filled, fact free post and then complain that I am being emotional.

Look, this attorney seems to have only one skill; using propaganda to lure dissatisfied pilots into leaving their union. After that, his representation has been disastrous for everyone he represents. Under this man:

USAPA had the highest dues rate in the industry
They wasted millions on pointless lawsuits
They never negotiated a single benefit for pilots
They conducted an illegal "safety" slowdown that lead them to federal court where they still labor under an injunction
They wasted additional millions on a phony "pension investigation" which ended up in the Mr. Obvious conclusion that if a pension is out of money, the PBGC will take it over
They sued their own pilots

In short, he was great at luring pilots away from ALPA and then took millions of dollars for himself and gave his pilots a giant bucket of spit in return. And you really wonder why I don't want this guy around? It is amazing how you have your pay and benefits go up 60+% in 6 years and DALPA is a giant failure. The attorney produces a fat goose egg in the same time and you are willing to stake your career on him. Look back at what a federal judge wrote about his conduct in the DFR case. It is pure insanity that anyone would trust this guy with anything.

My point is that this phony "website hacking" is just another in an endless scheme of schemes that are designed solely to separate pilots from their money. My hope is that anyone who reads this will never send a single penny of their money to this pointless cause. I think the core 50 DPA people will never change. All they have is hatred now and they will wallow in it until they die. For the rest, please save your money.

This post is going to take a while to respond to, but I have to ask you this Alfa: Do you not see how wildly emotional this post of yours is? Emotion is the main talking point used by ALPA to disqualify the thoughts of anyone who criticizes ALPA. We've all seen that. But when I read this post of yours, I can almost see you raging at your keyboard. :eek:

You are probably the last person here that should ever critique anyone about being emotional.

Carl

Carl Spackler 08-19-2014 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
USAPA had the highest dues rate in the industry
They wasted millions on pointless lawsuits
They never negotiated a single benefit for pilots

As you well know, USAPA wasn't created to achieve any of that. Their only purpose was to delay implementation of the Nicolau award. At that, (their only purpose), they've succeeded.


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
They conducted an illegal "safety" slowdown that lead them to federal court where they still labor under an injunction

Aren't Delta and United pilots also operating under injunctions...while being represented by ALPA?


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)
In short, he was great at luring pilots away from ALPA and then took millions of dollars for himself and gave his pilots a giant bucket of spit in return.

He gave his pilots exactly what they hired him to do...delay implementation of a seniority list.

Carl

80ktsClamp 08-19-2014 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1708658)

He gave his pilots exactly what they hired him to do...delay implementation of a seniority list.

Carl

To be fair, that was the only thing that he was successful in doing. It was the primary objective, so he's got that feather in his cap. However, there were numerous other objectives that he failed at. Just look at the tremendous amount of lawsuits filed trying to raise their pay and other things that did not succeed.

Seham is just yet another reason why the DPA is not a good idea.


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