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Let's face it. Carl and Alfa's generation have not only been poor stewards of our profession, but also the country. They squandered what their predecessors built and now it's up to us to fix it. We should ignore both and go about fixing our profession ourselves. Thankfully they, and their kind will both be gone in a few years.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)

It is amazing how you have your pay and benefits go up 60+% in 6 years and DALPA is a giant failure.

But we've lost half Alfa. Losing half, then getting back 60% is not a recipe for success. But worse is our fixing the RAH scope abuse by agreeing to insert the abuse into our contract, lowering our long-standing minimum flight requirements out of NRT, and remaining silent on the current non-compliance (soon to be violation) of our Atlantic JV. So yes, DALPA is a giant failure for pilots...but a real success story for Delta management.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)

The attorney produces a fat goose egg in the same time and you are willing to stake your career on him.

No, not at all. I would be staking my career on Delta pilots...unencumbered by ALPA's long, long history of interference in MEC's.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)

Look back at what a federal judge wrote about his conduct in the DFR case. It is pure insanity that anyone would trust this guy with anything.

Look back at what the judge said to ALPA as ALPA tried to break the union of its own in-house group of clerical workers. Fortunately, ALPA lost. Couldn't it be said that it's pure insanity that anyone would ever trust ALPA? Especially ALPA's own employees?

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1708619)

My point is that this phony "website hacking" is just another in an endless scheme of schemes that are designed solely to separate pilots from their money. My hope is that anyone who reads this will never send a single penny of their money to this pointless cause. I think the core 50 DPA people will never change. All they have is hatred now and they will wallow in it until they die. For the rest, please save your money.

If you're correct, then ALPA is behaving in a very defensive manner for something done by someone with no current or past affiliation with DALPA. Very strange behavior for the completely innocent.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1708444)

Fine. Then let those "couple people" waste their time. Just go about your life and vote your conscience.

Why would it distract you? Who cares about a couple of guys angry at ALPA? Keep your focus on DALPA. That's my focus, and I strongly supported the idea of getting new representation. That doesn't look like it's going to happen now. I'm very disappointed, but all my energies and focus are trying to get DALPA to behave like a real union instead of a pretend union.

Carl

It's distracting because you dominate the conversation with your seemingly endless time to post on the internet. We should be discussing ways to achieve a heroic contract 2015. Instead we get a guy who's had a fairy tale career telling us about a loser lawyer who brought us the likes of USAPA. Embarrassment of all airline embarrassments in my opinion.

You should be set for life. Let those of us who got here just in time to see airline Armageddon work on salvaging our career without some personal agenda dominating the conversation. With your experience, you could be a tremendous help if you chose to be.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1708662)

To be fair, that was the only thing that he was successful in doing. It was the primary objective, so he's got that feather in his cap. However, there were numerous other objectives that he failed at. Just look at the tremendous amount of lawsuits filed trying to raise their pay and other things that did not succeed.

Seham is just yet another reason why the DPA is not a good idea.

And that's why this is so weird to me Clamp. As you knows I'm very sad about us likely not getting a vote to decertify ALPA. I really wanted it, but life goes on and now we're forced to fight our own union just as hard as management to get gains that we know are achievable. And with all this, the ALPA-oids go postal when someone brings up the Seham firm...even when it's the ALPA-oids that bring him up. It's just odd.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1708671)

It's distracting because you dominate the conversation with your seemingly endless time to post on the internet. We should be discussing ways to achieve a heroic contract 2015. Instead we get a guy who's had a fairy tale career telling us about a loser lawyer who brought us the likes of USAPA. Embarrassment of all airline embarrassments in my opinion.

You should be set for life. Let those of us who got here just in time to I think it'd be cool. I'm gonna be at that festival all next weekend though too so it doesn't really matter. see airline Armageddon work on salvaging our career without some personal agenda dominating the conversation. With your experience, you could be a tremendous help if you chose to be.

^^^^^ This

#CarlWinning #NoLife

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1708666)

Damn. Guess I'm headed for execution, then a strong letter in my permanent file. :(

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1708676)

The reason why is because Seham is one of the best arguments against DPA. He's a concrete, tangible reason why that movement is a bad idea.... the guy's history is really just a train wreck. He's an easy target, so that's why he gets brought up and slammed.

That being said, I do think the DPA presence has caused DALPA to up its game in some aspects. Without them, it would be the same echo chamber. I'd really like to see some of the DPA types get elected into ALPA positions to continue reform and forward progression... if only they would get involved and come to meetings.

One particularly good guy that is long time DPA I've flown with regularly on the 320. He bid to SLC though and converts in a week and a half. I've told him several times that if I could vote for him, I would.

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1708671)

It's distracting because you dominate the conversation with your seemingly endless time to post on the internet. We should be discussing ways to achieve a heroic contract 2015. Instead we get a guy who's had a fairy tale career telling us about a loser lawyer who brought us the likes of USAPA. Embarrassment of all airline embarrassments in my opinion.

You should be set for life. Let those of us who got here just in time to see airline Armageddon work on salvaging our career without some personal agenda dominating the conversation. With your experience, you could be a tremendous help if you chose to be.

How? What would you like to see me do?

Carl

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1708679)

The reason why is because Seham is one of the best arguments against DPA. He's a concrete, tangible reason why that movement is a bad idea.... the guy's history is really just a train wreck. He's an easy target, so that's why he gets brought up and slammed.

I know that's what DALPA wants their PUB guys to preach, but stand by for some incoming. Got some great research and history I need to comb through. I think I've found where the hatred stems from.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1708680)

How? What would you like to see me do?

Carl

He needs a spoon and bib.