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Atlanta was a goat rope last night. Having missed the ice events, this was my first time to witness a total meltdown. We taxied out for flt to Atlanta, sat an hour and gate returned. Almost 3 hours later got airborne 2:30 enroute scheduled turned into 5:37 block.

117 duty was 12/14/9 and contractual was a max of 12.45. Ended up at 13.09. Is there anything we need to do (paperwork wise) due to exceeding the 12?

If the FAR limit was 12/14, no you gave your concurrence and you are good to go. Now make sure that the 13:09 is not the PWA duty but FDP duty. The PWA duty listed on the rotation adds 30 mins to the duty that the FAR's do not recognize. In your case if does not matter as you were at a min, 39 mins over the 12 hr limit, so going forward you cannot go over 30 mins over until you have a 30 hr prospective rest break.

Alan Shore

08-09-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver (Post 1702271)

They thought they were gonna be able to squeeze more out of us using 117, that's why they delayed hiring. How's that working out?

Not well. My understanding is that Flight Ops was almost begging for more pilots for quite some time, and that RA was saying not yet.

Alan Shore

08-09-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1702182)

From the amount of open time today (and lack of awarded trips) for ATLM88B it would appear the scheduler just threw their computer out the window and walked off the job.

Now there's a visual. :D

Free Mason

08-09-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1702299)

Not well. My understanding is that Flight Ops was almost begging for more pilots for quite some time, and that RA was saying not yet.

That is how I understood it. For something like a year or two.

TeddyKGB

08-09-2014 09:04 AM

How does one request a blank line? Is there an option in PBS or do you have to call in the request?

DLpilot

08-09-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1702319)

How does one request a blank line? Is there an option in PBS or do you have to call in the request?

You have to call and speak to a schedling supervisor.

scambo1

08-09-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1702319)

How does one request a blank line? Is there an option in PBS or do you have to call in the request?

If you get an rll, you will either get a reduced line or a blank line. You have to bid for an rll, it's a bid group. If awarded an rll I believe you have to ask for it to be converted to a blank line.

cni187

08-09-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 1702249)

Last night in ATL was absolutely embarrassing for Delta.

Passengers all over the terminal, planes with no pilots or flight attendants, pilots and flight attendants with no plane....Impossible to get through to crew tracking or accommodations. I finally left @ 2 A.M. airport jammed with pax...

What a nightmare..........

Was it Tstorms? We left for ACC half empty. We were expecting 224 but only had 156 due to Atl-JFK flight being delayed.

johnso29

08-09-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 1702249)

It's ok though. DAL is now listed in the S&P 500. Hiring wasn't necessary 2 years ago. We are now properly staffed. :rolleyes:

Piklepausepull

08-09-2014 09:28 AM

Perhaps rotation construction folks finally realized that 3 day trips on the 88 allow for more guys/girls to fly extra flying.....

September 3 day rotations up to 50+% as opposed to 80% 4 day trips.

Here I have sat for 3 days watching the meltdown and GS going waaaaay junior to me.....all because I have a crappy 4 day trip tomorrow, so am ineligible for a sweet GS today....or yesterday, or Thursday.....

Watching one guy go out on his 2nd....for 6 GS days so far this month! OUCH!

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