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forgot to bid 08-06-2014 09:12 PM

Well, if you're to believe the company, it sounds like the 747s brawniness isn't as required as it once was in the pacific.

Supposedly if Delta owns a retired aircraft then they like to part it out, and 4 parked 747s would be a lot of parts to save money on. I think it's odd to do this after the interiors were done but you can part those out, no? So it'd make sense you'd improve your margins on some routes and reduce the cost of operating the 747s on the routes they still reign supreme.

So couldn't it just be that mathematically fewer 747s equals more profitability?

I argue we're a 767 airline. I think that's the nature of operating a global airline from the States where the 767 or now the A330/350/787 would make more money most of the time than a 748, 773 or 380.

tsquare 08-07-2014 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1700425)
I think that's what many of us have thought about. The company will park more whales right as we start contract negotiations. The company will then offer to replace them if we only give up???


Park 'em. I couldn't care less. It is not our decision what airplanes to buy, nor how to fly them... We need to get more money for the airplanes we DO fly. If we were paid properly for what we do, we could NEVER be held hostage for airplanes. To borrow a phrase, this is management's manifest destiny.

tsquare 08-07-2014 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1700708)

I argue we're a 767 airline. I think that's the nature of operating a global airline from the States where the 767 or now the A330/350/787 would make more money most of the time than a 748, 773 or 380.

At one time, the 757/767 was 35% of the metal at DAL. We WERE a 767 airline. Soon the 737/MD88 will be the lion's share of DAL metal. Bigger. good plan.

forgot to bid 08-07-2014 04:33 AM

I guess there will always be routes where you do want the ULH aircraft and that's probably why a 747 fleet of 12 or 16 has its niche. The 744 like the 752 isn't getting any younger as time goes on though so eventually they are going to exit stage left.

So if we are still taking bets:
  • 330s come now, do what they're doing but also encroach on 772 flying.
  • 330Neos for the long term 763/764 flying.
  • park the 4 744s, but not replace them, you now can use the 772 on some of those routes.
  • buy a half dozen 773s, maybe a few more, to replace 744s at the end of the decade but it won't be a 1:1 replacement. So now you have just what you need for very large ULH flying and can have a such a small fleet because it's already a part of a larger fleet. Win win.

flyerc90 08-07-2014 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1700618)
Should be a very good meeting. No one can explain, or argue for, resolutions as well as the author can.

Can you provide for us more information as to what you desire?

warning: they benefit only commuters.....so i will probably get flamed for choosing to be a commuter.

a) i want our 2hr commute into shortcall back, that we lost in the recent LOA
b) I want to be able to bank all of the positive space deadhead deviations that I dont use (like if i finish a rsv trip in sayyyy STL, and take SWA straight back to MCO instead of using the company dhd to ATL)

iaflyer 08-07-2014 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1700686)

I stand corrected, sorry. I usually see this kind of stuff. But the company hasn't issued any public info, the articles cite "internal company memorandum".

But the rest of my guesses I still think are accurate.

Bucking Bar 08-07-2014 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by flyerc90 (Post 1700783)
warning: they benefit only commuters.....so i will probably get flamed for choosing to be a commuter.

a) i want our 2hr commute into shortcall back, that we lost in the recent LOA
b) I want to be able to bank all of the positive space deadhead deviations that I dont use (like if i finish a rsv trip in sayyyy STL, and take SWA straight back to MCO instead of using the company dhd to ATL)

Please post the full text if you want anyone to take it and run with it as new business. Or, are your resolutions already on the adenda with Armando?

Oberon 08-07-2014 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by flyerc90 (Post 1700783)
warning: they benefit only commuters.....so i will probably get flamed for choosing to be a commuter.

a) i want our 2hr commute into shortcall back, that we lost in the recent LOA
b) I want to be able to bank all of the positive space deadhead deviations that I dont use (like if i finish a rsv trip in sayyyy STL, and take SWA straight back to MCO instead of using the company dhd to ATL)

Bank deadheads for what? You already have unlimited positive space deviate from deadheads. For commuting?

Bucking Bar 08-07-2014 06:06 AM

The Dude Abides
 
Richard Anderson says the Big Lebowski will be free on every Delta flight.

iaflyer 08-07-2014 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1700804)
Bank deadheads for what? You already have unlimited positive space deviate from deadheads. For commuting?

I believe that's what he means. Fedex or UPS have a similar system.

The idea is that by saving the company a scheduled DH, he should be able to "bank" it for further use.


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