That right there sort of encapsulates the last decade of the regional industry and their problems. Your idea to save Pinnacle/Mesaba pilots is to throw the Colgan guys under the bus. Right now, when that happens, the aircraft just get moved to a new carrier with 1 and 2 year Captains that have the lowest costs which further puts pressure on long established carriers. How long did it take Delta to place the Comair large RJ's into service after they shut down? Not long. ASA's costs are too high? Just move the jets to GoJets with new hires and problem solved.

The key to your future is cooperation and coordination. Trying to solve your problems by waiting for the destruction of others is not the answer. The rest of the conspiracy theories are just black helicopter stuff that might make you feel better but do nothing to solve your real problems. Delta only wishes they had the grand master plan to move chess pieces around. In reality, they wanted Pinnacle to merge to solve their problems and lower costs due to size. Their management blew it big time and then Delta was faced with a gigantic problem that they didn't want and didn't need. From there they just tried to salvage a terrible situation. That is why they sent a bunch of executives over there to clean house. This was not some Dr. Evil plot, it was a clown show in Memphis (Pinnacle HQ).

One thing to note, ALPA can never admit wrong doing, lest the wolves descend in...

When they took a job at Colgan as a scope violation of 9E, they knew the risks. This is in no way the same as selling scope. Your junior pilots did not expect to get furloughed, while they watched thousands of regional pilots get hired in their place. ALPA has no business facilitating this type of behavior, NONE WHAT-SO-EVER.

Management opened the last round of negotiations proposing a zero percent increase. I would expect the same from them again. They know ALPA is weak. Lee Moak just reiterated that fact.

First, you never...ever... have the right to bring up executive compensation again, if this is truly your feelings. After all, you could have checked CEO on your application, right?

Second... nevermind... this place is really starting to suck.

Exactly right

I despise socialism, and in particular the head socialist clown in the circus. I wasn't advocating that in the least. And I do not apologize for my compensation. But your "mathematical statement of fact" certainly appeared to me to be saying that the other employees have gotten back to where they were before the BK, and that reaching that level is not as important to them nor as meaningful to them as reaching it is to us. And what I read was EXACTLY flaunting it in their face.

Secondly, if I read that in your post, I can guarantee you that someone else did. If you don't agree, that's your prerogative. I'll bet there are some that do.

Starting to suck?! Just wait till the first TA rolls in.

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Bar, we didn't do it my way. We sat around the campfire, and sang Kumbaya, and look what happened. Instead of ending the whipsaw, we became the whip.

Well frankly I agree. I am not interested in some stupid gang banger wannabe "drank" nor in any overpriced automobile. (I wouldn't know an alfaromeo from a VW Passat... I am just not into cars.) But given the choice between the "drank" or the AR.....