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Speedbird2263 08-29-2014 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1715215)
Couple of reasons. DALPA attempted to capture the efficiency gains from the 727 which it more or less directly replaced* and Southwest airlines actually made a convenient benchmark (and who said we could not pattern bargain off the Southwest student Council?).

We again tried to capture the efficiency gains over the 757 that the 737-900 is replacing. That was a dollar.*

*(however, considering the 737-900 needs a flaps 15 War Emergency Power takeoff to get out of a sea level airport with a 10,000 foot runway and cruises at 25,000 feet, we have discovered the 737 is less efficient than the 40 year old design it is replacing so in C2015 we are going to take a $15 an hour concession to the 757 ... but the trips are better ... the 737-900 can only go to former SAC bases ... which is why the zoomies all bid the thing ... reminds them of their youth )

Ahh...very interesting.

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Speedbird2263 08-29-2014 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1715257)
Rode on one LGA-ATL and on take-off it sounded like the earth was coming apart as loud as the engines were. The interior paneling vibrated pretty violently as well. However the seats and especially IFE were quite nice though.

Been on a few myself and I concur with the hard product being quite nice. I did however get a somewhat muted impression that the niceties of the IFE in coach was to distract you from the subtle fact, that the seat pitch isn't quite as nice.

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scambo1 08-29-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1715117)
I don't understand. Some of you people have been complaining about Moak for a long time. If I knew how to do it I would go back and quote some posts about how he should be impeached for A,B and C. Yet it was all apparently internet bloviating. Or was it? Now since someone says all these things are true, it makes me wonder why those proceedings were never initiated. Instead, it was more "effective" to go out and attempt to burn down the house, instead of removing the rats. Caplinger's motives are becoming a lot more clearer with this.....

Do you see evil intent around every corner?

What did my post have to do with Caplinger?

Moak did the opposite of what he should have done 2 weeks ago. That's an impeachable offense IMO. My reps said he'll be gone before anything gels.

I don't know Caplinger and don't even think of the DPA. Take your meds man.

filejw 08-29-2014 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1715310)
How about just over staff the 744?

http://www.secrant.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif

Pretty much what happens every winter anyway.

Scoop 08-29-2014 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Speedbird2263 (Post 1715204)
I have noticed that it also pays more than the similarly sized A320 which is the 737s direct competitor(per APC). Why is that?



I don't know the pay history behind the 737 but while they may be sized similar, the 737s are in fact bigger - especially when you consider that there are only 10 737-700s.

319 -126 passengers
320 - 150 passengers

737-700 - 124 passengers
737-800 - 160 passengers
737-900 - 180 passengers

The airbus fleet is approximately 50% 319/320 averaging about 139 seats.
The 737 fleet currently averages over 161 seats which will rise to about 169 seats when we have all the 900s.


Scoop :)

Purple Drank 08-29-2014 11:25 AM

Letter from SD promising an "updated" EFB timeline "early next week."
Sounds like more delays.

The incompetence shown thus far is pretty embarrassing.

iceman49 08-29-2014 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1715354)
I don't know the pay history behind the 737 but while they may be sized similar, the 737s are in fact bigger - especially when you consider that there are only 10 737-700s.

319 -126 passengers
320 - 150 passengers

737-700 - 124 passengers
737-800 - 160 passengers
737-900 - 180 passengers

The airbus fleet is approximately 50% 319/320 averaging about 139 seats.
The 737 fleet currently averages over 161 seats which will rise to about 169 seats when we have all the 900s.


Scoop :)

Don't forget the 330 vs the 764 pays the same! Which is interesting.:rolleyes:

Scoop 08-29-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1715359)
Don't forget the 330 vs the 764 pays the same! Which is interesting.:rolleyes:

And also the 747 and the 777. The only thing that makes sense is that wanted to even out the pay-rates for North and South as much as possible.

If you ask me - they are all too low! :eek:

Scoop

Howgozit 08-29-2014 11:39 AM

Reserve question. I have a trip that spills over into the next moth. Are we able to ask scheduling to apply all of the trip credit towards this month? I thought I read it somewhere that we could.

sailingfun 08-29-2014 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1715365)
And also the 747 and the 777. The only thing that makes sense is that wanted to even out the pay-rates for North and South as much as possible.

If you ask me - they are all too low! :eek:

Scoop

The south had higher rates at the time of the merger. There was a limited amount of money available in the joint contract. To get the north rates to match the south there would have been no raises for the south pilots. A hybrid raise system was used where everyone got raises but the North raises were higher to close some but not all of the of the gap.


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