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trico 12-07-2015 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 2023112)
I don't disagree the ME3 is a threat to our flying. Also not accusing you of being a cheerleader.

Point is: With no credibility with the line pilots, few will get behind their efforts. I don't even bother looking at their propaganda anymore. Call it laziness if you like. I just don't count on any ALPA led effort to enhance my job (can no longer call it a career).

I do support my LEC and am hopeful for change going forward in our new MEC (especially after the C44 transformation is complete). Don't confuse this with my lack of caring about ALPA.

Yup...I need to see a change before I get involved again, but if too many of us have my attitude there will be no change. The circle of apathy and disappointment wins in this case. 25 years of ALPA malfeasance has taken all the love out of me. I now direct it elsewhere. Anyone need a hug?;)

trico 12-07-2015 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 2023099)
Credibility? I'm no alpa cheerleader, believe me. This is just laziness.

Need some motivation? :D

https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0

It's not necessarily laziness. ALPA national is a self-serving bureaucracy intent only on it's own continuance. I don't understand why anyone opens their emails, much less listens to anything they have to say on any subject. And yes, I do understand the dangers of the ME3, so I wrote my own letters to the WH and my Congressfolk. My experience has been that if you are counting on National you are fated to be disappointed. But, to each his own.

flyallnite 12-07-2015 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by trico (Post 2023159)
It's not necessarily laziness. ALPA national is a self-serving bureaucracy intent only on it's own continuance. I don't understand why anyone opens their emails, much less listens to anything they have to say on any subject. And yes, I do understand the dangers of the ME3, so I wrote my own letters to the WH and my Congressfolk. My experience has been that if you are counting on National you are fated to be disappointed. But, to each his own.

Hey, if you wrote your own letters, that's great. Thanks for doing that. For the rest of us, the call to action link is almost ridiculously easy and quick to use. I believe it can make a difference.

I have two relatives who lobby in DC. That's pretty much all that town is now, and you wouldn't believe the two things they lobby for. As in: They have lobbyists?? We absolutely HAVE to be there. I don't care if it's ALPA, DPA, or Billy Bob's airline pilots and bait shop... all I care about is having a voice. Right now that's ALPA. Well, thanks again for writing the letters. Those actually go a long way. Cheers...

Imapilot2 12-08-2015 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 2023271)
Hey, if you wrote your own letters, that's great. Thanks for doing that. For the rest of us, the call to action link is almost ridiculously easy and quick to use. I believe it can make a difference.

I have two relatives who lobby in DC. That's pretty much all that town is now, and you wouldn't believe the two things they lobby for. As in: They have lobbyists?? We absolutely HAVE to be there. I don't care if it's ALPA, DPA, or Billy Bob's airline pilots and bait shop... all I care about is having a voice. Right now that's ALPA. Well, thanks again for writing the letters. Those actually go a long way. Cheers...

I love that link. Use it often for the fight in DC. Just don't know what extra button to click at bottom.....transportation?....foreign policy?....

full of luv 12-08-2015 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 2023097)
I guess many don't give ALPO the time of day anymore. I quit supporting the PAC, quit opening ALPO emails, and really just quit caring about ALPO period. They have ZERO credibility with me. I do, however, have 1.9% taken out of every paycheck. This is way to much considering the little value I see coming back from them. How much did they spend on selling this POS TA? Again, no credibility results in few people taking 10 seconds of there time to do this.

I suppose you just send out tweets daily instead of voting or getting involved.

Last I saw the union has had a large upheaval, maybe more change to come but I'm pretty sure continually referring it to alpo isn't going to endear you to anyone but your Twitter followers.

SFWB 12-08-2015 10:22 AM

Never feel bad about not flying on reserve. They ain't paying me to fly. They are paying me to answer the phone and come to work if they need me. They never felt bad about calling me at midnight with a noon report the next day after I drove 5.5 hours home. Nor did they feel bad about me sitting in Buffalo hotel on Thanksgiving eating BLT for lunch at cafe. Feel good about being home and irritating your teenage daughter.
SFWB
And for God's sake, call in sick if you are sick even if your team is in the Super Bowl.

Schwanker 12-08-2015 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2023620)
I suppose you just send out tweets daily instead of voting or getting involved.

Last I saw the union has had a large upheaval, maybe more change to come but I'm pretty sure continually referring it to alpo isn't going to endear you to anyone but your Twitter followers.

Oh, Mr. Luv wants to get personal. How sweet.

Care to share the changes made at ALPA national? Haven't seen it.

full of luv 12-08-2015 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 2023709)
Oh, Mr. Luv wants to get personal. How sweet.

Care to share the changes made at ALPA national? Haven't seen it.

Well, I'm far from involved myself other than a vote, just like everyone else, but I'd hope with a new crop of leadership at DALPA that a new way of thinking may filter on up to National.

I just think repeatedly referring to it as ALPO does not help, and at the present it's the best alternative we have available to have any collective voice.

Do you think the teamsters wants to speak for airline pilots? Do you just want to pull out of the conversation altogether?

Bottom line, US has the best government that money can buy, and money and lobbying is the only thing that even comes close to capturing our governments attention. If you have some specific reform you'd like to see, please post, and I'd more than likely get onboard as well.

It's not personal, but in the end it's all business and what becomes of the profession over the next decade.

bohicagain 12-08-2015 11:27 AM

quick PBS bidding question.

I would like to bid a certain 1 day rotation that operates on the 26 and 27th.

I would only like to fly 1 of them but not both and I don't care which 1.

How can I ask PBS to award either 1 of those but not both

full of luv 12-08-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 2023725)
quick PBS bidding question.

I would like to bid a certain 1 day rotation that operates on the 26 and 27th.

I would only like to fly 1 of them but not both and I don't care which 1.

How can I ask PBS to award either 1 of those but not both

When you put in that you want pairing number departing on date 25/26 you list both and
then at the bottom of the page you can select limit and then put 1 at least on the web version.


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