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Old 01-28-2015 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
I for one think it's smart to be discussing the threats before they become emergencies with only a short time to make a big decision as has been the history with TA's of the past.
That's a completely rational position. The survey was not the ideal instrument for gauging sentiment, IMO, and there are a ton of topics that are left hanging. We probably won't see the changes coming until we're face with an all-or-nothing vote. Hopefully we'll see some follow-up polling, or even a better survey, as we actually start seeing negotiations shape up.

There is of course a difference between advocating for a given position, and trying to shape opinion based on conspiracies and rumors.
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:18 PM
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Is there an echo in here? Are 80 and Sink like AV8 and Treehugger?
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Is there an echo in here? Are 80 and Sink like AV8 and Treehugger?
Have you two ever been seen in the same room, at the same time??
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:26 PM
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According to the pilot contract:
$0 to $2.5 billion 10.0%
Over $2.5 billion 20.0%
And if I do math right we get
$2.5B x 10% = 250M
(4.5B - 2.5B) x 20% = 400M
250 + 400 = 650M

So why on the press releases does it say that $1.1B was set aside for PS?
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Have you two ever been seen in the same room, at the same time??
Entirely possible. Whereas I used think "what a collection of old farts" in the ATL lounge, now I find myself wondering which of these young (deleted, not flattering) is 80, and which is ftb. Haven't seen a Delta pilot wearing the cone of shame yet.

I did fly on Bar's aircraft, once.
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Have you two ever been seen in the same room, at the same time??
I call little spoon!
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
According to the pilot contract:
$0 to $2.5 billion 10.0%
Over $2.5 billion 20.0%
And if I do math right we get
$2.5B x 10% = 250M
(4.5B - 2.5B) x 20% = 400M
250 + 400 = 650M

So why on the press releases does it say that $1.1B was set aside for PS?
"Delta announced profit sharing last week with a preliminary estimate of 16.4 percent. The airline has now received the final data, resulting in an actual payout of 16.58 percent, which means that even after the 5 percent advance in October, the Feb. 13 payout will be well in excess of last year’s 8.26 percent."
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:38 PM
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My apology if this has already been considered, however:
>How many other labor groups (F/As, MTX, etc) have any profit share simply due to a "me too" clause? i.e. they are getting profit share, because the pilots have negotiated it, and if the pilots fore go P/S in the future, would they lose their slice of P/S?
>IF we pilots do away with our P/S, would all those other "me too" groups subsequently lose their P/S?
>In other words, if there are other labor groups piggy backing off our negotiators heavy lifting, why don't we give P/S back to the company, let the company save those $ that they have to give to those said groups, and make the company pay dearly for us saving them money?

Just askin'...
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
I'm not sure exactly what issues the company has with sick time but I'm guessing a spike in sick time right before it resets raises eyebrows. I haven't seen any stats on this but human nature you know...

If sick leave was left unchanged except it reset on our date of hire instead of June 1 would that be palatable? In theory that would spread sick leave more evenly throughout the year and maybe the company would be less interested in cracking down on sick leave abuse. A potential downside is less required staffing but I'm guessing May isn't the month they staff for anyway.

In corporate America Delta would win the award for coming up with a sick policy that encourages the absolute most amount of abuse possible. I've worked under 3 different sick policies in my career and the current one we have has got to be the dumbest plan ever that a management team has come up with.

Give us a bank option so we don't lose the time we have accrued, and give us the option of selling back a portion over a threshold and you will see sick time fall right in line with all the other pilot groups in the industry.
Old 01-28-2015 | 01:52 PM
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...then bring lots of tissues, sanitizing products, and other futile protections to work.

Maybe there is a reason we use more than other carriers: they incentivize flying sick, and we don't.
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