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01-30-2015 | 06:20 PM
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Can someone explain how Delta calculates how much in profit sharing each pilot gets, in detail? I've seen the formula somewhere, but searching for "profit sharing" is like searching for "pilot" on this forum. Starting from company's annual profit to how much each pilot would receive. Thank you!
01-30-2015 | 06:34 PM
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Each have a couple of minor annoyances. The Telex doesn't work in the right seat of 3-5 -800s. They've been that way since DAL bought them. I doubt they will ever be "fixed". The UFM mike only mounts on the left ear cup.
Other than carrying a spare AAA for the Bose, the battery is really not much of an issue.
Having said all this, the QC15 is an end of life product also. They're still available [certainly used], but becoming more scarce. Apparently the plan is for UFM is to adapt to the QC25. I don't think its a done deal yet but should be close. The decision: go with QC15 now or wait for development/TSO on the QC25.
Bottom line: UFM/Bose
FWIW: we get a 10% Delta discount through Bose but you may find a better deal on a closeout QC15.
Bob
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01-30-2015 | 06:39 PM
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When this stuff happens, you need to pay attention. This is how our MEC works. They are exceedingly uncommunicative about their internal strategies. Thus we are forced to logically deduce what they're attempting from the opinion shaping they throw out.
A great example was in C2012 when I asked the reps and MEC admins who post here to take a pledge that they would vote against any increase in RJ's. Their absolutely uniform response was "Not one more seat, not one more pound." I continued to press them about whether that meant allowing any more RJ's, but they just gave the same uniform response. I posted that as evidence that the MEC was going to allow more jumbo RJ's and the usual suspects here went nuts. They said there would be no way that would even get past the NC, much less the reps and that I was just lying. The rest is history. It didn't make me prescient, I just paid attention to very clear evidence.
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01-30-2015 | 06:41 PM
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Can someone explain how Delta calculates how much in profit sharing each pilot gets, in detail? I've seen the formula somewhere, but searching for "profit sharing" is like searching for "pilot" on this forum. Starting from company's annual profit to how much each pilot would receive. Thank you!
01-30-2015 | 06:42 PM
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Can someone explain how Delta calculates how much in profit sharing each pilot gets, in detail? I've seen the formula somewhere, but searching for "profit sharing" is like searching for "pilot" on this forum. Starting from company's annual profit to how much each pilot would receive. Thank you!
01-30-2015 | 06:42 PM
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Great rhetorical.
In reality, many of the people waxing poetic about C2K have never lived under it, including the Joker who is screaming it was stolen from him. Probably just over half of us have never worked for the company that gave up C2K, and none of us work for it today. Most of us who lived under it, don't even remember what was in it.
The good news is the company we actually work for (today), has a vastly different set of circumstances than the pre-reorganiztion company. I suspect this company, which already enjoys extraordinary productivity concessions from us, can afford a very good contract, that would equitably reward the various shareholders. Why aren't we talking about THAT? Why aren't we talking instead only about the financial metrics of this company, and whether there is room for RA to position it as a different sort of company, and for us to be properly rewarded?
As far as I'm concerned, the only pertinent discussion would be determining how much more above $2.7B in yearly costs we can go, while allowing the goose with the golden egg enough grain, vet visits, and whatever else it needs. Look at the cash that's moving around: isn't there enough for everyone, lest we get overly greedy?
As far as the PS goes, it has two great benefits:
1) It provides leverage as we wait for the right contract, and
2) It provides upside protection while we wait.
All it does, really, is send 20% to employees, which I guess is ~about 6% to pilots (check my math). Is our self-respect that low, that we don't think we deserve that, and an appropriate contract?
With all due respect, trying get back to C2K payrates (only) is a low bar. But talking about giving up the PS only to achieve a lesser goal is preposterous.
In reality, many of the people waxing poetic about C2K have never lived under it, including the Joker who is screaming it was stolen from him. Probably just over half of us have never worked for the company that gave up C2K, and none of us work for it today. Most of us who lived under it, don't even remember what was in it.
The good news is the company we actually work for (today), has a vastly different set of circumstances than the pre-reorganiztion company. I suspect this company, which already enjoys extraordinary productivity concessions from us, can afford a very good contract, that would equitably reward the various shareholders. Why aren't we talking about THAT? Why aren't we talking instead only about the financial metrics of this company, and whether there is room for RA to position it as a different sort of company, and for us to be properly rewarded?
As far as I'm concerned, the only pertinent discussion would be determining how much more above $2.7B in yearly costs we can go, while allowing the goose with the golden egg enough grain, vet visits, and whatever else it needs. Look at the cash that's moving around: isn't there enough for everyone, lest we get overly greedy?
As far as the PS goes, it has two great benefits:
1) It provides leverage as we wait for the right contract, and
2) It provides upside protection while we wait.
All it does, really, is send 20% to employees, which I guess is ~about 6% to pilots (check my math). Is our self-respect that low, that we don't think we deserve that, and an appropriate contract?
With all due respect, trying get back to C2K payrates (only) is a low bar. But talking about giving up the PS only to achieve a lesser goal is preposterous.
Except the "waxing poetic" part. Anyone that correctly uses that in a sentence is, well...waxing poetic.
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01-30-2015 | 06:47 PM
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01-30-2015 | 06:52 PM
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Further Rocky, how many sick verification notes have you been hassled about? Serious question. I haven't ever been asked to submit anything, although I have voluntarily a couple of times.
I ask, because I hear guys make the statement you just made, yet I rarely come across someone who has actually been hassled. Actually come to think of it, I can't think of one.
I really don't care if they want a note anyways. I don't gsme the system, and if they want the note they have to pay for the Doc visit. From what I hear it simply doesn't happen. I'm happy leaving that provision intact if they leave the rest of the program alone.
I ask, because I hear guys make the statement you just made, yet I rarely come across someone who has actually been hassled. Actually come to think of it, I can't think of one.
I really don't care if they want a note anyways. I don't gsme the system, and if they want the note they have to pay for the Doc visit. From what I hear it simply doesn't happen. I'm happy leaving that provision intact if they leave the rest of the program alone.
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01-30-2015 | 07:19 PM
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01-30-2015 | 08:02 PM
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