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Old 02-03-2015, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
NYC already has a built in COLA, it's called Juniority. If you can hold Captain, or Wide Body F/O, only in NYC, you are being paid more in NYC (COLA) than what you would be paid in ATL, because you can't hold that position (or pay) anywhere but NYC.

Now...LAX is a whole different can of worms, because they don't have as many positions available out there. If they had all the same equipment based there, as in NYC, and if they had to cover 3 airports (do they still cover only 2?) it might go as junior as NYC.

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I don't think LAX will go as junior as NYC - at least not until the military pulls out of SOCAL like they did in SFO. And contrary to what I see occasionally posted here plenty of new hire FOs want to get LAX based. The reason is that there are a ton of military guys who have already establish themselves in this area prior to getting hired by DAL.

With North Island, Miramar, March ARB, Pt Mugu NAS, Edwards AFB etc there are plenty of guys to feed the LAX base.

Now do these guys want to stay here for there whole careers retire and pay CA state income tax in retirement? That is a whole different question.

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PS - Still covering three airports but ONT trips are very very rare. Mostly LAX with some SNA for ER guys only.
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:59 AM
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Rumor: ALPA is constructively engaged with management and as a result pilots may be included in the 3% raises going to all Delta employees on April 1st.

That would be a nice little goodwill gesture just before contract negotiations open and it would also reduce by 3% the headline number coming out at the conclusion of those negotiations.

Front load and camouflage some of our pay restoration.

Sounds like a smart move (if true).
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
Rumor: ALPA is constructively engaged with management and as a result pilots may be included in the 3% raises going to all Delta employees on April 1st.

That would be a nice little goodwill gesture just before contract negotiations open and it would also reduce by 3% the headline number coming out at the conclusion of those negotiations.

Front load and camouflage some of our pay restoration.

Sounds like a smart move (if true).
What do we have to give up for that?
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
Timbo,

I don't think LAX will go as junior as NYC - at least not until the military pulls out of SOCAL like they did in SFO. And contrary to what I see occasionally posted here plenty of new hire FOs want to get LAX based. The reason is that there are a ton of military guys who have already establish themselves in this area prior to getting hired by DAL.

With North Island, Miramar, March ARB, Pt Mugu NAS, Edwards AFB etc there are plenty of guys to feed the LAX base.

Now do these guys want to stay here for there whole careers retire and pay CA state income tax in retirement? That is a whole different question.

Scoop

PS - Still covering three airports but ONT trips are very very rare. Mostly LAX with some SNA for ER guys only.
You're right Scoop, I had forgotten all about all the Mil bases out there, and something else I forgot about, and another reason why LAX will always be a senior base;

How many times have you had to di-ice in LA?

Oh...and...The Yankees still SUCK!
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:35 PM
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It's still a yellow card foul if you come on here and complain you need more money because you live in Hawaii!
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
Rumor: ALPA is constructively engaged with management and as a result pilots may be included in the 3% raises going to all Delta employees on April 1st.

That would be a nice little goodwill gesture just before contract lnegotiations open and it would also reduce by 3% the headline number coming out at the conclusion of those negotiations.

Front load and camouflage some of our pay restoration.

Sounds like a smart move (if true).
Great rumor, I hope it is true. Keep in mind however we get our annual raises in JAN. Non contract have been getting theirs in April. I would hate to get 3% now and have it delay what I hope will be a much larger raise in JAN 16.
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:30 PM
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Great rumor, I hope it is true. Keep in mind however we get our annual raises in JAN. Non contract have been getting theirs in April. I would hate to get 3% now and have it delay what I hope will be a much larger raise in JAN 16.
Don't think it would change anything in JAN 16 other than reduce what we may get if we sign a deal before then. Good move IMO. If they were planning on going to 15% in Jan 16 they can give us 3% now and tell Wall Street we are getting a 12% raise which is in line with what AA gave their guys.
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:29 PM
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Thanks to the folks with their ski recommendations. Ended up skiing at Brighton and the canyons then went up to Daniels peak for snowmobiling. A compressed good time. Made some reservations for lodging, but then cancelled them when a friend said he'd be "upset" if we didn't stay with him (sweet). We were lucky with great weather, but the snow was only good. Shout out for polygamy porter...I never saw any moose drool in the store.
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Great rumor, I hope it is true. Keep in mind however we get our annual raises in JAN. Non contract have been getting theirs in April. I would hate to get 3% now and have it delay what I hope will be a much larger raise in JAN 16.
We just got our last raise. We don't get any more until we have a new contract.
No reason this should cause any delay. The amendable date would remain unchanged.

If this rumor is true it would just be a down payment on C2015 and a way to reduce the "shock value" for Wall St and the other employee groups when we announce the pay increase associated with C2015. (which I expect to be substantial).
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:03 PM
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