Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1862347)

Haven't seen in print the so-called additional 11 717's either....anyone?

Baja.

Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1862371)

I'm going on a 13 day LAX LHR trip soon and wondered about laundry in LA at the Westin. I know contractually we get it but wondered if there is guest laundry at the hotel. I don't mind doing it myself to save the outrageous fee someone probably charges. I have several 30+ hour LA layovers

Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 1861759)

Little spoon......or big spoon?

Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1862347)

Haven't seen in print the so-called additional 11 717's either....anyone?

Baja.

Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1862310)

They sure seem confident in a pilot contract being done before the due date. Not sure how they expect only a 2% increase in employee costs and a new pilot contract. Sure sounds like they don't plan on reaching into the wallet. Perhaps they already have direction from ALPA and offsets are in the works.:rolleyes:

Also confirmed that we will be down to 7 747's at the end of this year with only 6 flying. :(

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1862399)

And no displacements. Right.

Displacements off the whale will push the training dept over the cliff. Maybe another buyout. This time with more incentive.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1862345)

Keep in mind that as the mainline expands they are hiring in very low cost employees in every division. No retirements and low wages for many years. A growing airline can support increases because of the net employee costs relative to revenue drop with new hires. SWA lived off that concept for 25 years. Once the magic chain was broken and they stopped growing employee costs soared. In addition headcount is growing slower relative to revenue as many departments increase productivity.
Expect the company opener to focus heavily on that concept with the pilot group also. Don't buy into forum hysteria that is sure to come but keep a sharp eye on jobs. Money is not everything. In the past DALPA's estimates of jobs lost or gained have proven to be very accurate. There will be contractual changes that effect jobs but there is no reason to have a net job loss when everything is tallied in this contract. We gave enough in jobs in the past.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1862409)

If they do another buyout, I want to see concrete timelines for those who take it to leave the airline. In the past, and currently, there are pilots who took buyouts, then remained on the line earning a salary, because we were 'short staffed'. How did that help me again?