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boog123 04-17-2015 04:24 AM

AE QUESTION:

I was awarded a different base on an AE and am happy with my seniority in that base. (say 50% in category) If I suspect in the next few AE's that I will be bumped back quite a bit, does a request in the first request of new base 50%, then 2nd request of old base do anything for me?

Current Award : ATL 73N 50%
next ae request: ATL73N 50%, NYC 73N

Meaning if I can't stay at 50% in base, I want to go back to my old base, where I was senior if there is an opening.

or do I have to risk it and just bid back to old base?

Thanks

Elliot 04-17-2015 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1863601)
It's actually age 68 In Japan, you can still pilot an airliner when you're 67 but must retire at 68.

So age 65 + 3 years not 2.

I see your age 68 rule and raise you one! I vote for age sixty-nine! Flyin' til you be dyin' has a nice ring to it on a bag tag. :D Sixty will be the new 40! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...living-5525916

scambo1 04-17-2015 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1863606)
AE QUESTION:

I was awarded a different base on an AE and am happy with my seniority in that base. (say 50% in category) If I suspect in the next few AE's that I will be bumped back quite a bit, does a request in the first request of new base 50%, then 2nd request of old base do anything for me?

Current Award : ATL 73N 50%
next ae request: ATL73N 50%, NYC 73N

Meaning if I can't stay at 50% in base, I want to go back to my old base, where I was senior if there is an opening.

or do I have to risk it and just bid back to old base?

Thanks

If you have an AE request in, you are asking for the move. My guess, because I didn't get it clearly in the explanation, is that you are 50% in ATL 73n if you can't stay at 50% or higher! you want to go be senior in JFK again.

If you're in category, an AE preference for your current category is a waste. A voluntary displacement might be more what you want or a simple AE back to your old base.

BenderRodriguez 04-17-2015 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by thefoxsays (Post 1863534)
Simple math can show the loss of potential income.

Really? Give me an example that will be germane to this airline at this time. Be careful how many suppositions you make too. You did say simple.

BenderRodriguez 04-17-2015 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by ilinipilot (Post 1863583)
What kind of restriction Is the company looking for with banding? Because that will be the most important factor. Can you change in your band, only go up in bands etc.that determines how bad it is. Can anyone shed light on what the co wants in terms of band restrictions. Also what would the bands be.
Thanks

At this point in time this is nothing but emotional supposition.

Omar 111 04-17-2015 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1863608)
If you have an AE request in, you are asking for the move. My guess, because I didn't get it clearly in the explanation, is that you are 50% in ATL 73n if you can't stay at 50% or higher! you want to go be senior in JFK again.

If you're in category, an AE preference for your current category is a waste. A voluntary displacement might be more what you want or a simple AE back to your old base.

Not correct Scambo,

Boog, you have it correct. If you are at 50% in ATL, the AE will stop processing and keep you in current category. Ref 22.D.8a.

Omar

badflaps 04-17-2015 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1863604)
I think the company should hand out samurai swords when guys reach sixty. You know, as an act of goodwill.:D

What? Power tools go out of style?

RockyBoy 04-17-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1863609)
Really? Give me an example that will be germane to this airline at this time. Be careful how many suppositions you make too. You did say simple.


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1863610)
At this point in time this is nothing but emotional supposition.

You really like the word supposition don't you? Was it on your word of the day calendar?

Saying that we won't notice the effect of less staffing due to pay banding because of retirements is the same as saying all those who will upgrade during this contract should be fine taking a 3/3/3/3 deal because they will be getting a 40% raise when they upgrade anyways.

Stupid way to argue that pay banding is a good thing.

BenderRodriguez 04-17-2015 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1863641)
You really like the word supposition don't you? Was it on your word of the day calendar?

Saying that we won't notice the effect of less staffing due to pay banding because of retirements is the same as saying all those who will upgrade during this contract should be fine taking a 3/3/3/3 deal because they will be getting a 40% raise when they upgrade anyways.

Stupid way to argue that pay banding is a good thing.

Please show me where I said it is a good thing.

sailingfun 04-17-2015 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1863608)
If you have an AE request in, you are asking for the move. My guess, because I didn't get it clearly in the explanation, is that you are 50% in ATL 73n if you can't stay at 50% or higher! you want to go be senior in JFK again.

If you're in category, an AE preference for your current category is a waste. A voluntary displacement might be more what you want or a simple AE back to your old base.

This is incorrect. First call DALPA or post on the contract forum about major items that can have a big impact to make sure you have a correct answer.
You can however bid your current category at a percentage and then put other bids behind it. You can even bid your current category multiple times at different percentages and layer in other choices. If your first choice is ATL 73N at 50% and you will be above that level it will disregard the other bids. If you fall below that level it will move to the next bid.


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