Lucky you. I get Richard Simmons.

Carl

Now that is just plain sad but true and very funny

I've had Richard a few times. Anybody else ever have Juan? "Juan in the rear?" He's LA-based. :eek:

Anyone have good gouge on Delta jumpseating to CUN? As a DL guy, is it just like JSing within the states?

Yes, except there are fees. Approx $48 each way.

Read back a bit and didn't see anyone talking about crew plannings letter to further reduce commutable trips. For those who live in base they reduce the number of short trips and for those who commute they make them non-commutable. I don't commute and would prefer shorter trips which are all but gone, however I feel terrible for commuters 4 four days non commutable...gone for 24 days. We have destroyed QOL in this job for what more money...wait we still get payed less than a decade ago soooo. More work for less pay, look at us go. Maybe this contract will fix it.... I bet it will

Really? It's been a few years since we have vacationed in CUN but I don't recall fees going there. I recall about $20 to exit CUN but nothing going down.

I agree. Just the other day I was thinking about my time at a regional, years ago. Almost all the trips that overnighted were commutable. (the day trips weren't) They all had a start around noon, and ended around 12pm-3pm. I don't ever recalls having to wait until the next day to commute home.

Why are we taking such a QOL of life hit without addressing it? Now I live in base, but I would much prefer trips that didn't involve me getting up before 5am, and allowed me to get home before my kids went to bed. I only live half an hour from the airport, so it's not like I have a long trek home.

Cause we asked for it?

We've always been clamoring for more productive days. Guys would get on here, and say that don't care how hard they work when they're at work, they want more days off. Now we got ADG 5:15. We should be thrilled, right?

The problem is, Carmen, or whatever the system is called, isn't going to give you a bunch of credit time for the purpose of commuting. It's going to build a lot of flying into the first and last days of your rotation, especially short rotations, to avoid credit time. It's also going to try to do more duty periods than calendar days in the same rotation.

There is an inherent conflict between getting more minimum credit per day, and making the first and last day commutable. We simply need to know what we want to prioritize. I think most guys want as high a credit time as possible, and keep their fingers crossed that the trips will come out commutable, even though they know there is no logical reason they would.

You are correct, as soon as we got 5:15 ADG, the 4 day, commutable trips pretty much disappeared in DTW...at least for me at 60% down the list of ER FO's. I either had to do GRU's or 5 day trips that ended with a red eye. I have since, switched to ATL because it appeared at the time, that there were many 4 day, commutable trips. Now, with this letter, I am afraid it might have been for nothing.

I keep hearing from the company that they're trying to decrease credit time but one look at a 73N bid pack and it looks like they haven't optimized the trips in that category yet...4 day trips with 13 hours of flying and DH's all over the place.