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forgot to bid 04-27-2015 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 1869748)
Yeah it seems slow here too. I guess everyone is mesmerized by the goings on in BWI.....

I take it our crews are out of there, no?

forgot to bid 04-27-2015 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1869716)
Almost as slow and dead as this forum!!!!!!!!!:cool:

I'm somewhat mad at this forum.




For opening my eyes.


To the wonderful world of...




Airplanes built at home

http://www.rotecaerosport.com/wp-con...ront-close.jpg

Sliceback 04-27-2015 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1869317)
Again read the remarks. They grayed out the SWA number and stated it was in error. In a email they said to use the 2012 number as there were no real changes.


Thanks.

2012 is also in gray. So it's suspect too.

badflaps 04-27-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1869770)
I'm somewhat mad at this forum.




For opening my eyes.


To the wonderful world of...




Airplanes built at home

http://www.rotecaerosport.com/wp-con...ront-close.jpg

What is that? What is that? It is not a Rotec-Luscombe, what is that?

forgot to bid 04-27-2015 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1869807)
What is that? What is that? It is not a Rotec-Luscombe, what is that?

A Kitfox.

Kitfox 3. to be exact. S7 is mostly what they have now but also I think they put the 4 back out.

-Me, talking like I knew this 2 weeks ago.




This isn't a Kitfox but it's pretty cool too. :D


Carl Spackler 04-27-2015 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1869316)
The SWA number came from the MIT study.

No it didn't sailingfun. That totally discredited MIT study that you wave around showed the 2013 SWA number to be $162,483 which they grayed out with a note saying that data was unreliable. $162,483 is definitely unreliable because that same discredited study showed 2011 SWA numbers of $203,196. SWA didn't drop over $40,000 between 2011 and 2013...so good for them to at least realize that part of their "study" was wrong.

FTB showed the 2013 SWA number to be $229,290 which obviously did not come from the document you love to cite.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1869316)
They grayed it out because the number is in error and put a remark to that effect.

See above. They grayed out the SWA number because it was so obviously low.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1869316)
I actually mailed and asked them about it and they said to use the 2012 number.

No you didn't, you made that up too Sailingfun. The 2012 number is also grayed out because it's so obviously low. The 2011 number isn't grayed out and shows $203,196 which, if you must use this wrong study, is at least a little less wrong.

Bottom line is that you keep saying we Delta pilots have the highest average salaries and the highest costs. You're wrong on both counts. Again. I just don't know why you always choose to try to make us look better than we are during contract time. Weird.

Carl

Mesabah 04-27-2015 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1869751)
It would be perfect if there was hockey in Baltimore.

Need transportation to the riot?
http://i57.tinypic.com/efez5s.png

scambo1 04-28-2015 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1869811)
A Kitfox.

Kitfox 3. to be exact. S7 is mostly what they have now but also I think they put the 4 back out.

-Me, talking like I knew this 2 weeks ago.




This isn't a Kitfox but it's pretty cool too. :D


For a stol GA plane, the kit fox is cool as a cub replacement. But, a 7 cylinder 110 hp radial? That is just impractical. It looks cool, but that's where the benefit ends.

sailingfun 04-28-2015 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1869817)
No it didn't sailingfun. That totally discredited MIT study that you wave around showed the 2013 SWA number to be $162,483 which they grayed out with a note saying that data was unreliable. $162,483 is definitely unreliable because that same discredited study showed 2011 SWA numbers of $203,196. SWA didn't drop over $40,000 between 2011 and 2013...so good for them to at least realize that part of their "study" was wrong.

FTB showed the 2013 SWA number to be $229,290 which obviously did not come from the document you love to cite.



See above. They grayed out the SWA number because it was so obviously low.



No you didn't, you made that up too Sailingfun. The 2012 number is also grayed out because it's so obviously low. The 2011 number isn't grayed out and shows $203,196 which, if you must use this wrong study, is at least a little less wrong.

Bottom line is that you keep saying we Delta pilots have the highest average salaries and the highest costs. You're wrong on both counts. Again. I just don't know why you always choose to try to make us look better than we are during contract time. Weird.

Carl

Carl, 229,000 is the average SWA captains pay. Even SWA in the propaganda piece did not try and make any such claim. That was right at the number they used for Captains. With the overstaffing and lack of growth and no movement on a contract amendable before our last one they are now making less. All you have to do is go back and look at the SWAPA document regarding their pay and work rules and think about it for 10 seconds and you would know that number is incorrect.

scambo1 04-28-2015 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1869842)
Need transportation to the riot?
http://i57.tinypic.com/efez5s.png

How does one comment on this riot without sounding racist?


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